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The Price of a Door Step Pint!
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I have 20 pints a week delivered in 4pt plastic bottles. It works out at 44p a pint - I think there is a discount for having plastic rather than glass bottles. As my milkman only delivers every other day, I couldn't store 8 individual pints in my fridge.
Luckily my council has a plastic recycling scheme, but I still feel guilty!"Cheap", "Fast", "Right" -- pick two.0 -
Supporting the local man is all good in all but you need to remember that your family are a business too. The more you pay out, the less they have.
Simple fact is, if supermarkets are selling it cheaper (and for milk they sell at a loss!) than small local businesses, then small businesses need to adapt or go under. You shouldn't be subsidising a business that can't compete.
It's all good in all saying farmers don't make enough money and should get more, but I am sorry, they are sitting on land and farm houses with the value going way above the £million pound mark. Many farmers are subsidised. I dont see why we should be carry people who can't compete in the global market.
As far as I am concerned the supermarkets can run these farmers into the ground if it means I get cheaper products. A decade or two ago they were ripping us off with their prices, now supermarkets have pushed the prices down so why should we pay more for something we can get cheaper now?
If they weren't making money they would sell up and then price of milk would naturally rise. But I haven't seen milk rise above inflation so realistically they are making money but they like to whine because they want more, which is fair enough, but I'm not about to listen to it.
If you want to start feelling sorry for people, look at your shoes and know that the person that made them probably didn't get more than a £1 for it, so start off with paying them a decent wage before looking at rich farmland owners driving their 4x4 and living in 5 or 6 bedroom farm houses.0 -
going2die_rich wrote:Simple fact is, if supermarkets are selling it cheaper (and for milk they sell at a loss!)
How do you know they sell milk at a loss - I dont think so! I quote the following again:https://www.farm.org.uk
it costs a dairy farmer between 18 -22p to produce a litre of milk. Yet currently, on average, farmers are being paid around 17.5 pence per litre of milk by the processors who buy their milk – i.e. below the cost of production. The dairies who collect, process and package the milk are then selling onto the supermarkets for about 26 pence per litre. The supermarkets then sell the milk onto their customers at a range of between 55 – 65 pence per litre. A difference of 29 -39 pence per litre from which to account for their costs and profitgoing2die_rich wrote:As far as I am concerned the supermarkets can run these farmers into the ground if it means I get cheaper products. A decade or two ago they were ripping us off with their prices, now supermarkets have pushed the prices down so why should we pay more for something we can get cheaper now?.
Oh I can see that why shoudl you pay more for something that you can get cheaper elsewhere - its the supermarkets that are putting the people and businesses out of farming as they are lowering the prices they charge for milk. As more farmers go out of business it will mean a knock on effect for other indsutries and prices as some things become raregoing2die_rich wrote:If they weren't making money they would sell up and then price of milk would naturally rise. But I haven't seen milk rise above inflation so realistically they are making money but they like to whine because they want more, which is fair enough, but I'm not about to listen to it.
Many farmers are having to sell up and leave the industry now as they are running at a loss.https://www.farmerslink.org.uk
Incomes are very low and falling. In 2000, the average annual income per person employed in British agriculture was £7,500, or £144.20 per week, barely the minimum wage for a 40 hour week; most farmers work 60-70 hours per week. With this, farmers must support their families, re-invest in the farm and provide for old age. Many farmers are tenants who are in danger when old of leaving farming with no home and insufficient income. The average age of farmers is now 58going2die_rich wrote:looking at rich farmland owners driving their 4x4 and living in 5 or 6 bedroom farm houses.
There arent just farmers who have 4x4s - go out at school in or out time and you will see lots of the things. Farmers have them for a purpose - off road and for business purposes - what do the non-farmers have then for?Weight Loss - 102lb0 -
I think I stopped having mikl delivered 15 years ago
I cannot imagine why I would need to go back to it0 -
While you're still feeling sorry for your milkman and the farmers.....
http://www.vegansociety.com/html/animals/exploitation/cows/dairy_cow.php"A nation of plenty so concerned with gain" - Isley Brothers - Harvest for the World0 -
Grade_A_Reject wrote:While you're still feeling sorry for your milkman and the farmers.....
http://www.vegansociety.com/html/animals/exploitation/cows/dairy_cow.php
That has certainly given me something to think about. I still have some of my milk delivered and buy the rest from the supermarket. For some reason i only ever thought about keeping the milkman in a job. This gives me another view on things now.When life gives you a hundred reasons to cry, show life that you have a thousand reasons to smile0 -
I never buy milk, or anything else I can get from a local farmer from a supermarket as I have no wish to encourage their excessive profits, takeover of our high streets or bullying tactics towards producers.
If the milk from the doorstep delivery seems a bit dear you could try a local farm shop or even a local independent grocer as they often get supplied direct from farms (assuming you live somewhere even remotely rural!).
My milk from a local farm is £1.09 for 2 litres and I can see the cows and know they live in decent conditions.0 -
We pay 41p per pint (in proper glass bottles
) which is delivered early mornings. If the service was rubbish, then i wouldn't have any hesitation in buying it from the supermarket, but maybe it's habit - i quite like getting milk delivered every day. I'm not sure if it's about supporting small business (cancelled the window cleaner a while ago, because he wasn't worth it - no noticabe difference :rolleyes: ) but if you think it's worth it then it's a decent deal.
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I pay 42p per pint of semi-skimmed in a glass bottle. My milkman is absolutely wonderful. He works for an independent local dairy (5 miles away) and I too can see the cows that the milk come from. My father however used to work for Dairy Crest (as a yardsman not a roundsman) until he was made redundant and some of the stories I'd hear about the roundsman and how managment operated made my toes curl.
Whilst it costs me a little more than at a supermarket I am happy to a) help keep a local business in business and b) don't forget that the milkman is a community watcher/listener. If they spot anything amiss (which my fathers colleagues often did) then they can report it to the Police asap. They would note if x elderly customer wasn't about at their usual time or they often saw burglaries taking place. In my eyes a "proper" milkman who takes pride in his job is more than just a milkman.0 -
Sarahjovi wrote:I've just got my milk bill from Dairy Crest Deliveries and they have put the price of 1 pint up to 51p
It must vary depending on where you are then - or maybe you have a different type of milk which is a different price. Just had a bill from Dairy Crest myself and it was 49p per pint.
BTW did you know that they'll now let you pay by DD?Stompa0
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