car key cutting

nashdgnasher

i have a ford fiesta 55 plate and a peugot 206 51 plate both with only one key. as they are my wifes and daughters cars i could do with a spare but dealers prices are extortionate any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Lum

They probably have security chips in which means you're basically stuck with a main dealer.

A decent, preferably independent, key cutting place will have a machine that identifies the chips and they may be able to recommend a place that can clone them for you.

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers!

It isn't extortion. The cars would have been sold new with two keys and possibly a third, plastic key.

When you bought the cars you should have factored the absence of these keys into the price and bargained accordingly.

darkblue_2

You could check with Timpsons.
http://www.timpson.co.uk/services/66/car-key-replacement
They may also be expensive, however.

Nevsy51

We were in Timpsons yesterday and saw a sign about Car Keys. Enquired about our Escort key-They stuck it in the machine to see if it could be copied and said it can be copied and would be £70-The sales advisor then gave us a 15% off Priveledge card from behind the counter for when we decide to have the key copied.Mind you, ours is an old P reg Escort so don't know how that price would compare to a a 51 or 55 plate car.

cyclonebri1

You can get chipped keys for most cars cut at a proper locksmiths, the trade do just this. As long as you have the original for them to read.

What they can't do is supply the central locking type fob and key.

Locknut

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

What they can't do is supply the central locking type fob and key.

In a Panto style "Oh yes we can" :j

Oh and we dont need k,eys to copy from either

benham3160

Locknut wrote: »

In a Panto style "Oh yes we can" :j

Oh and we dont need k,eys to copy from either

Is there anyway that key cutting specialsts can code on new transponders (a la PATS) without a key to clone?

For those with old bangers, and only one "chipped" key:

1) Remove chip from key
2) Superglue to transponder
3) Any subsequent key can be a standard £5 blank, (eg. Ford) off an old model.

Regards,
Andy

cyclonebri1

Locknut wrote: »

In a Panto style "Oh yes we can" :j

Oh and we dont need k,eys to copy from either

Come on then, elaborate for the benefit of everyone.;)

These things change rapidly , it would be nice to know what is possible as against a few years ago:beer:

Locknut

Ok I'll try and answer both questions as fully as I can.

Yes You can code in new keys to a ford pats system even when all keys are lost although the dealers cannot do this and will charge you for a full lock change and pats unit.
I would not tape a transponder to the ariel as this will invalidate your insurance as you have effectivly bypassed the immobiliser!

Cyclonebri

Depending on the company you go to depends on what they can do I can make keys and code them into pretty much any vehicle on the road including coding in of the remotes with or without keys to work from and even when the dealer says all locks and the ECU need replacing like on Saabs and quote a massive £1600 when you have lost your keys!

Evilm

Timpsons do Ford Keys for around £75 when the dealers were asking £80 or more.

Also check your local keycutting/shoe repair places since some of those have the machines to do car keys. With Fords (or mine certainly) they had problems getting the right chip with the right key type but they offer them for £30.

It won't be a remote locking one for that price - you are talking £180 for one of those and the only people I could find to do that (who I could check to be trustworthy) was the main dealer.