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Graham_Devon wrote: »Aren't you supposed to tell me whats wrong with what I said?
From the posts that I have seen of yours I often might not have enough time. In this one I would say there is at least (being kind) a slight change of emphasis in the second post.0 -
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Graham_Devon wrote: »Malcolm, your losing your touch old chap
Stop being an a rse,a prize one at that.0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »Yer, cus selling one house cheaper is going to send the housing market into a downward spiral.
Utter nonsense ISTL, and you know it.
You've said before that landlords provide a service, and help out those who can't afford to buy a property. If this is really so, why don't you help them out more, and stop charging them rent to live in your place?
Not so good when the boots on your foot, is it?
Totally agree it's utter nonsense.
You make a valid point though, fer every individual who is selling their property, why would they want to sell them cheaper?
I think you may be understanding a little of how the normal person thinks when selling property.Graham_Devon wrote: »You've said before that landlords provide a service, and help out those who can't afford to buy a property. If this is really so, why don't you help them out more, and stop charging them rent to live in your place?
Not so good when the boots on your foot, is it?
I wasn't the one saying I wanted prices down, so it's not about the shoe being on the other foot, it was about one person proclaiming they wanted falling prices yet didn't contribute in order to chieve that desire.
Sort of 'I want prices to drop but not on the properties I sell'.
Of course I run a business and want that business to be as profitable as possible.
What sort of businessman would not wish to see profits?
There are people who can't afford property AND people who choose not to buy. Social housing was sold off and private landlords only took up part of that slack.
I'll say it again, if you want prices and rents to go down, you should be lobbying for more properties.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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Graham_Devon wrote: »ISTL is asking nearlynew to sell at a much reduced cost rather than the market value at the time, just to make a lone standpoint about the market, which will make no difference to the market at all.
Realise this is all the bulls have at the moment, but come on, bit desperate isnt it?
It's not about making a lone standpoint, but realising that unless there are individuals who collectively agree to sell lower, your not going to affect the market that way.
If you reflect for a moment, both this correction and the one in the 90's was caused due to a restriction in credit.
If credit wasn't constricted in both cases, would there have been a correction?
The problem is that as the credit is restricted, it reduces the opportunity for people to become owners.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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Graham_Devon wrote: »My point was he could probably, lets face it, do without the rental income and keep the 2nd home. He was basically asking nearlynew to do the same thing.
There is a fundamental difference between myself and nearly new.
I recall he once had 4 properties and sold 2 for a profit.
He states he want's prices to fall but did not participate in helping to achieve this.
I don't want prices to fall, I'd prefer a bit more stability such as following the long term trend instead of booming and busting.
Your failing in this debate as trying to put myself and nearlynew in the same position whilst we have different viewpoints.
P.s. Cleaver last line was just, you could probably have an argument in a room all by yourself :wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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But this isn't true is it? Presumably you'd run out of money very quickly doing this, thus you can't afford to provide services for nothing.
He wouldn't be a very good businessman would he?
Hands up who's now thinking of Graham standing in front of the Dragon's Den?:T
How long do you think he'd last?:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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IveSeenTheLight wrote: »It's not about making a lone standpoint, but realising that unless there are individuals who collectively agree to sell lower, your not going to affect the market that way.
Still nonsense. The market is NEVER going to be made up of a collective of sellers all wanting to do the same thing, and reduce prices.
The market is determined by several factors.
You would have a point if nearly new said "I want to see prices fall" and on another thread went on about how good HPI was for him etc etc.
But as he doesn't, you have no point.
Either you have ignored, or didn't read properly. But he has 2 properties. He says he wants prices to fall. Therefore, he WILL lose out on the one thats not his home to live in.
Yet you are banging on that he has only benefitted...well thats not quite true is it, as he's holding one and accepting it may fall in value, and stating he wants to see prices fall.
Just annoys me that you (and others) come out with such silly lines just because the other person disagrees with what you would like to see on the HPI front.0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »I could provide services for nothing.
I'm self employed. Have been to 3 individual business's today. Could afford to say to 2 of them "hey, you know what, I already made some money at my first appointment, enough to live today on, therefore for you, I'll do it for free".IveSeenTheLight wrote: »Hands up who's now thinking of Graham standing in front of the Dragon's Den?:T
How long do you think he'd last?
LOL, not very long I think
The point was, that nearlynew said he wanted prices to lower, yet didn't contribute to achieving that.Graham_Devon wrote: »just as he was asking nearlynew to do, and trying to make some kind of point about him.
He's basically saying nearlynew should say "hey, I already got a property, you can have this one for x amount less than it's value cus I'm nice like that".
It's like saying to a charity, I hope you raise the target you want to achieve but I'm not giving you any money.
It's like saying to comeone buying a car you own. I would like you to get a car for £10,000, but I'm only selling for £20,000
It's like saying "I want house prices to lower, but am not going to lower mine"
It was nearlynew's belief, not mine.
I'm all for nearlynew or any other owner getting as much as they can for their asset.
I'm all for anyone getting the current market value.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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Graham_Devon wrote: »
Am I missing something!?
Yes, I wasn't the one who said they wanted something to happen yet did the opposite :wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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