anybody dealt with nationalflyers.co.uk

princess85

hi MSE's

i applied to national flyers afew weeks ago and ive just recieved an email saying i can start work right away i just need to pay £35 at a paypoint which is refundable and that its just to cover the cost of a gps handheld monitor and uniform.

pennies at tight so im dubious about paying this start up fee for it to turn out to be a scam,so has any of you ever dealt with them?
thanks.

Adlen

I applied with them a while back and got an email last night asking for a scan of my passport. My passport has expired and I'm only about 10 in the photo so I tried to call to ask if I could send scans of my national insurance numbercard and my European health insurance card. Nobody answered any of the 4 times I called on a Thursday morning and they're business seems a bit too good to be true (double your business in a week or double your money back).

I can't say that it's a scam for sure but I wouldn't get your hopes up. I did, not so optimistic now.

steveOooo

Hi,

exact same situation - i sent scan of expired passport and they oked this.

Email - 'youve got the job, send £35 to us etc..'

Yesterday (fri) payed £35 at paypoint

Today 1300 got a email saying following

PAYMENT PROBLEMS: Refund Request!

Due to a security problem with our payment processor, recent PayPoint payments made by customers have been frozen.

Don't worry; your money is still safe!

However, we advise you to request a refund immediately from our merchant as it may be some time before the matter is resolved at our end.

You'll need to find the receipt which you received when you made a payment at the PayPoint. You'll also need to provide the merchant with your name and address in order to receive a refund.

The two important numbers you'll need to provide the merchant are your serial number (9 digits) and transaction number (4 digits). These can all be found on your receipt.

They look like this: SN 025103040 TXN 1234

We have supplied you with an email template which you can use to request a refund. Please make sure you read the email, and add your own correct details before you send the email.

smells very fishy!

TwistedPsycho

I got some old trout in the fridge you can have a smell of if your fishy smelling senses haven't sussed it yet......

nessundio

steveOooo wrote: »

Hi,

exact same situation - i sent scan of expired passport and they oked this.

Email - 'youve got the job, send £35 to us etc..'

Yesterday (fri) payed £35 at paypoint

Today 1300 got a email saying following

PAYMENT PROBLEMS: Refund Request!

Same here! I've done a little research on the company too, and their address at the bottom of the emails is incorrect. There isn't actually an Old Station Road in Cawston, Norwich. However, there is an Old Station Yard, and in all honesty it doesnt look like the sort of place for an HQ of flyer distribution would be based.

Yes the whole thing is really suspiscious, i can't get through on the phone either - just get put on hold and since its an 0843 number charged at 5p/min there is no way im gonna hang around.

steveOooo

nessundio wrote: »

Same here! I've done a little research on the company too, and their address at the bottom of the emails is incorrect. There isn't actually an Old Station Road in Cawston, Norwich. However, there is an Old Station Yard, and in all honesty it doesnt look like the sort of place for an HQ of flyer distribution would be based.

Yes the whole thing is really suspiscious, i can't get through on the phone either - just get put on hold and since its an 0843 number charged at 5p/min there is no way im gonna hang around.

what u gonna do? how do u get refund? cancel? contact paypoint? i payed with mastercard

steveOooo

TwistedPsycho wrote: »

I got some old trout in the fridge you can have a smell of if your fishy smelling senses haven't sussed it yet......

Does it come with GPS tracker and promise of £10 ph wondering around delivering fish?

nessundio

steveOooo wrote: »

what u gonna do? how do u get refund? cancel? contact paypoint? i payed with mastercard

Well, i emailed nationalflyers with the following..

My bank says the payment went through, so my money has obviously gone
somewhere, but now im not sure where.

I've contacted paypoint about this, as you can imagine im not happy about
giving out further details including the SN and TXN off the reciept to a
company whom i've never heard of before (clear-pay.co.uk) and im assuming i
would have to give out bank account details in order to recieve my refund?

What happens if i dont persue the refund and just wait for you to get your
systems sorted, would that work too?
On a side note, could you tell me why i can't find your company on
googlemaps? There is no Station Road in Cawston, Norwich, just a Station
Yard, is there a mistake?

and i got this reply..

Clear Pay is our payment processor.

We are trying our hardest to rectify the mistake, but it could take up to 28
days.

If you want a refund, I'd advise you to request a cheque - then it can be
posted to you without having to hand over any details to anyone.

Otherwise the money will go more than likely be kept by the payment
processor.

Regards
Customer Support Team

im waiting to hear back from paypoint before i decide what to do exactly

davidjwest

nessundio wrote: »

Same here! I've done a little research on the company too, and their address at the bottom of the emails is incorrect. There isn't actually an Old Station Road in Cawston, Norwich. However, there is an Old Station Yard, and in all honesty it doesnt look like the sort of place for an HQ of flyer distribution would be based.

Yes the whole thing is really suspiscious, i can't get through on the phone either - just get put on hold and since its an 0843 number charged at 5p/min there is no way im gonna hang around.

If you do a "who is" lookup on the domain, it does show the address as being Old Station Yard:

http://www.who.is/whois/nationalflyers.co.uk/

Ooh, they are a bit naughty:

http://www.4networking.biz/forum/5/65936.htm?Page=1

:cool:

I wouldn't deal with this company for a whole host of reasons.

Edit: If you read the rest of that thread linked to above, it sounds like this company is now defunct.

Edit: If you red the whole of that thread it seems that the problems were caused by a rather dodgy web-design company, so I retract my earlier statements.

Mr_Oink

Look people, I don't wish to sound rude, but it really looks like you've been scammed. Don't mess around and give them time to vanish with the money - call the police *now*. Make sure it is formerly reported. I doubt you'll get your money back, but you may shut them down before they screw anyone else.

Can I ask - where was their original add / how did they come to your attention?

Just adding in:

DOMAIN REGISTERED: Registered on: 03-Jun-2010
BUT COMPANY THAT REGISTERED IT:
NATIONAL DISTRIBUTION SERVICES LTD UK Limited Company number: 6019965
STRUCK OFF AND DISSOLVED Dissolved 09/03/2010

This is clearly deception with criminal intent IMHO, call the police.

Mr_Oink

Because you appear to have suffered a financial loss, I am going to reproduce the following information. It is all from the public domain, but the moderators can be sensitive to this being posted and may remove it. Therefore, make a copy of it NOW.

The website was registered to

NATIONAL DISTRIBUTION SERVICES LIMITED
UNIT 1, OLD STATION YARD
CAWSTON
NORWICH
NORFOLK
NR10 4BB
Company No. 06019965

But this company was struck off in March of 2010.

The single director of this company is/was

JAMES ALEXANDRA HENDRICK Born: 5th/8/1966: and using this address:
29 STRACEY ROAD, BUXTON, NORWICH, NORFOLK, NR10 5ET

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=NR10+5ET&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Norwich,+Norfolk+NR10+5ET,+United+Kingdom&gl=uk&ei=wZ-CTJGWF4zG4gamy_WBDA&ved=0CBcQ8gEwAA&ll=52.757292,1.305638&spn=0.001664,0.003841&z=19&layer=c&cbll=52.757253,1.305486&panoid=m5PMZ7cmMIynapUXG5P1iw&cbp=12,164.21,,0,15.3

There was only one other name associated with this company, and that was the secretary:

DAVID JOHN POTTER 58 LONDON ROAD DEREHAM NORFOLK NR19 1AW

The address may, in fact, be correct as one JAMES HENDRICK is currently running a 'business' called 'norfolk-express-logistics.co.uk' from this address:

Unit 1 Old Station Yard
Chapel Street Cawston
Norwich
Norfolk
NR10 4BB
United Kingdom
[EMAIL="info@norfolk-express-logistics.co.uk"]info@norfolk-express-logistics.co.uk[/EMAIL]
TEL: 01603 879330

There is, in addition, a link to: BLACKWALL-LTD.COM on the website.

I stress this information is *all* out there in the public domain - there is also a suggestion that he may be of traveller/gipsy origin - so I would follow what I said and go straight to the police.

Hope this is helpful to you in some way.