'What's a necessity in modern living?' poll discussion

22225

if and when i have children ( i hope i will one day) i don't think i will have television (maybe a non-licensed one with dvd player). they won't have games consoles and i don't think i'd let them go on the internet either. i know it seems a bit mad but although i want them to friends, i don't like the way society i going and i think those things can be very damaging. i want to bring my children up to be good people (with christian principles).
i do worry that this will make them social outcasts, which is worse i suppose, but u don't want my daughters dressing like ****, my boys listening to gangsta rap, talking to !!!!!s on the internet.
i know people are going to take the mickey now and yes i am being a bit OTT, but i just hope i will be able to bring up my kids in a like minded community so they're not social outcasts.might have to join the amish.
btw i've been a teacher for 7 years and i don't think all this technology is very good for them. def doesn't make them produce better work. all the kids bang on about is their mums buying them more and more games pspsetc etcetc. they are very materialistic. they don't play games or have stories with their families. they have tvs in their rooms. when five years olds start discussing gavin and stacy, hollyoaks and big brother with you, you do think OMG.
i know i seem a bit mad

bitemebankers

mynameisT wrote: »

I haven't watched TV or heard news or read papers for months. I feel better and saner and more in balance mentally.. internet however is a freedom of choice for me to watch and hear what I like.. not the rubbish and lies that they have on TV.

I've got had a telly either in months and I feel a lot better for it. I still get the news online and on Radio 4, but it still allows me to be far more selective about what I watch and hear. The TV tends to spoon-feed you with information. I'm not a big fan.

Jacks_xxx

22225 wrote: »

if and when i have children ( i hope i will one day) i don't think i will have television (maybe a non-licensed one with dvd player). they won't have games consoles and i don't think i'd let them go on the internet either. i know it seems a bit mad but although i want them to friends, i don't like the way society i going and i think those things can be very damaging. i want to bring my children up to be good people (with christian principles).
i do worry that this will make them social outcasts, which is worse i suppose, but u don't want my daughters dressing like ****, my boys listening to gangsta rap, talking to !!!!!s on the internet.
i know people are going to take the mickey now and yes i am being a bit OTT, but i just hope i will be able to bring up my kids in a like minded community so they're not social outcasts.might have to join the amish.
btw i've been a teacher for 7 years and i don't think all this technology is very good for them. def doesn't make them produce better work. all the kids bang on about is their mums buying them more and more games pspsetc etcetc. they are very materialistic. they don't play games or have stories with their families. they have tvs in their rooms. when five years olds start discussing gavin and stacy, hollyoaks and big brother with you, you do think OMG.
i know i seem a bit mad

I don't think it is a black and white either / or choice between technology and bringing up children properly. I think you can have both, one, or neither.

I also can't speak for the other 12 million households who have the internet, tv and a games console in this country - but nobody in my house listens to gangster rap or dresses like a !!!!!. Nobody talks to !!!!! on the internet either.

Children can grow up to be good people, and adults can be good parents even though there is modern technology in the home.

Equally, children can grow up to be bad people, and adults can be bad parents even when living an Amish style existence.

Your plan will be hard to implement if you live in the world. At the very least your children will probably be expected to obtain, research, and submit their homework on the internet after the age of 11.

And what about you? Are you going to give up your internet, mobile phone and TV to set the example?

toontron

The previous poster makes a good point, I am not sure if this is a GB wide thing, but deffinately in my neck of the woods, all of the secondary schools require their students to log on to the school website for either collecting homework or handing work in on line. The uses to which the internet has been put for convenience, has made having a computer very nearly compulsory. Often my son will come home from school with homework that requires looking something up on the internet.

Mary_Hartnell

star_trek_fan wrote: »

OH was out of work for nearly 10 months after being laid off last October, I'm unable to work due to poor health. We live in a village with a 15 mile round trip to the local library and job centre, bus service not brilliant so have to use a car. Because we couldn't afford the petrol, shopping day and all the other errands had to coincide with signing-on day.
Most employers require you to submit online applications, most jobs are advertised online so computer and internet access are essential. The job he has now was only advertised online, so he would have missed it.
We have been without hot water and central heating since last October as we can never save up enough money for oil and don't have an immersion, but we have a kettle and an electric fire, lots of jumpers and blankets so we managed.
Curiously, I've enjoyed the challenge of cutting back and seeing just how little money we can get by on. This would have been so much harder without the computer for research.

Sorry to learn of your health problems.
However for OH a journey to the library and the job centre is half an hour one way and half an hour back on a push bike?
I had a similar problem with a car crash (3rd party insurance - it took 3 months to get the liability sorted out and my car fixed). I was never fitter (and slimmer) than doing the daily journey to work by bike, roughly 7 miles away.
llowing for traffic and parking, each journey only took 10 minutes longer than by car.

Reverbe

LadyGooGoo wrote: »

What can I say, I'm a girl! I do 1) Bedding, 2) and 3)Towels and dressing gown, 4) Darks. 5) Whites, 6) Delicates 7) The cats beds and blankets, and there's quite often curtains, cushion covers, sofa throws, or spare bedding cos somebody stayed over. It's always a lot less than a family I imagine.

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As a single female.. I remain baffled. I suppose you are the sort who wears things only once that are perfectly clean.. but still that doesnt account for 7 loads..perhaps I have a lot more undies, hankies and socks etc than you..???

JimmyTheWig

Reverbe wrote: »

I remain baffled.

Most of them are reasonable given that they are going to be small loads each time. Doing each wash weekly is reasonable if you've got a few favourites that you want to wear every week.

But it's the two washes for towels and dressing gown that I don't get. How many can you use in a week? 1 bath towel, 1 for your hair, 1 hand towel (maybe) plus 1 for a guest if one stays. Even with a dressing gown I don't see that filling up a machine once!

LadyGooGoo_2

Reverbe wrote: »

As a single female.. I remain baffled. I suppose you are the sort who wears things only once that are perfectly clean.. but still that doesnt account for 7 loads..perhaps I have a lot more undies, hankies and socks etc than you..???

JimmyTheWig wrote: »

Most of them are reasonable given that they are going to be small loads each time. Doing each wash weekly is reasonable if you've got a few favourites that you want to wear every week.

But it's the two washes for towels and dressing gown that I don't get. How many can you use in a week? 1 bath towel, 1 for your hair, 1 hand towel (maybe) plus 1 for a guest if one stays. Even with a dressing gown I don't see that filling up a machine once!

Ok, here's the rundown, just for you guys.

1) Bedding For a double bed: Duvet cover, 4 pillow cases, fitted sheet allergy cover, blanket, fitted bottom sheet and flat sheet (and at least one throw but that goes in with the cats things because he has usually slept on it.)

2) and 3) Towels and dressing gown My huge snuggly towelling dressing gown goes in with the 5 small towels I use for drying my hair at the gym and the 5 small towels I use for wiping sweat off the equipment at the gym, plus the bath mat and toilet mat. I try and get some of the flannels, cleaning cloths and tea towels in as well if I can, but that makes a pretty large load.
The 5 middle-sized towels I use to dry my body at the gym and the 4 large towels and 4 small towels I use at home go in a separate load with the hand towels, wash cloths for cleaning and dusting, 14 face flannels (night and morning) and the week’s tea towels.
Sometimes this spills over into 3 loads instead of 2 if I've been using bath sheets, dyed my hair, had a friend to stay, or gone through more than one dressing gown.

4) Darks dark tracksuit bottoms, dark tracksuit jacket, plus dark leotards, crop tops and cycling shorts, or leggings etc, plus dark coloured work skirts and trousers, dark coloured dresses and skirts that I wear out socially, and my weekend jeans go in this wash too.

5) Whites 5 pairs of gym socks, up to 5 white or light blouses from work, up to 5 white T shirts from the gym and my white nightwear.

6) Delicates 5 work bras, 5 pairs of work pants, 5 camisoles that I wear for modesty at work, 5 sports bras, up to 5 pairs of tights, 2 casual bras and 2 casual pairs of pants at least 2 going out bras and 2 going out pants, and my more delicate night wear.

7) The cats bed and blankets I use throws and blankets to protect furniture, carpet and bedding from my cat’s fur and the flotsam and jetsam that falls off him when he washes himself. There are usually loads of these. Next time I’m getting a bald cat!

8) Miscellaneous This is for another load of cardigans, jumpers, or bright colours that may be only a few items but which doesn’t fit in with any of the other loads. I also wash my trainers and outdoor fleeces once in a while too , usually on their own.

9) Guest bedding and cushion covers etc I try and make sure that I wash my cushion covers, curtains and decorative throws a few times a year, and much more often if the cat has taken a fancy to sleeping on them. I also have a couple of rugs which are washable. Usually a friend will stay on my sofa bed at least one night over the weekend and I make a judgement call each time whether to wash the bedding or put it away for another use.

I don't have so many clothes or enough room that I can leave the loads which might be small to mount up for a couple of weeks. Most of my loads aren't small at all though. I do only wear things once, and after a hard day's commute or a night out I don't consider them clean enough to wear again. My body, and the city makes things smell even if I haven't spilled my dinner down myself snorting at the television.

Reverbe

I live in the city and feel perfectly clean in my clothing. I wash several times a day and shower once a day.perhaps there is a difference as to how you were brought up. I have only a few bras which I wash once a month,dont have any need for additional underwear to cover the bra nor fancy underwear for going out as I dont go out, no guest beds, no bedding,(especially no double bedding or several pillows for one person) no pets and I dont use the gym- ie re towels and sports gear. My Black Dressing gown only gets worn in winter and gets washed only when dirty.I also have a lot of clothes and socks.underwear, hankies etc so no need to wash them til I accumulate a full wash.I also dont use towels etc only once before washing unless something has made them get physcially dirty and have no need for nightwear during non winter months.So I can see how some of your many washes come from now thanks

rag31

Once you have a few kids under your belt you won't fancy doing 20-30 washes a week and suddenly all these items will suddenly last a lot longer

With a family of 6, 2 cats and a dog, I also do 5-6 washes a week.

Becky