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Supersession

Can a supersession be done on an assesment that is not under appeal but would affect the appeal for a latter assesment.

Depends on answers this will determine my mode of writing:)
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  • bdt1
    bdt1 Posts: 891 Forumite
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    Hmmmmmmmmmmmm..........CSA_Help.

    In our case, a supersession of an assessment(s) was made, yet the assessments were not under appeal - so suppose answer is yes, but do not know how this will affect the appeal for a latter assessment, think would need more info.

    In our case, original assessment(s) were made, then supersession made as result of CSA Criminal Compliance findings, so 4 assessments were under supersession.................BUT, we then appealed all 4 decisions as CSA Criminal Compliance info/evidence was incorrect, we won this case at Tribunal, so just in process now of clearing alleged arrears as result of Criminal Compliance mistakes, and associated CSA Enforcement. Wait and see if they wipe the CCJ, LO, and interim charge on house - silly beggars included 'income' as assessable income, it was in fact child benefit for 4 kids in our ousehold, wife's (NRPP) reimbursement of company expenses from her employer each month, CSA money to my wife from her 1st hubs for their 2 ds, and an insurance payout in my wife's name - Criminal Compliance - a joke!!!! Hong Kong Phooey would have made a better job!!!!!! Showing my age at remembering that cartoon
  • CSA_Help
    CSA_Help Posts: 1,318 Forumite
    bdt1 wrote: »
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmm..........CSA_Help.

    In our case, a supersession of an assessment(s) was made, yet the assessments were not under appeal - so suppose answer is yes, but do not know how this will affect the appeal for a latter assessment, think would need more info.

    In our case, original assessment(s) were made, then supersession made as result of CSA Criminal Compliance findings, so 4 assessments were under supersession.................BUT, we then appealed all 4 decisions as CSA Criminal Compliance info/evidence was incorrect, we won this case at Tribunal, so just in process now of clearing alleged arrears as result of Criminal Compliance mistakes, and associated CSA Enforcement. Wait and see if they wipe the CCJ, LO, and interim charge on house - silly beggars included 'income' as assessable income, it was in fact child benefit for 4 kids in our ousehold, wife's (NRPP) reimbursement of company expenses from her employer each month, CSA money to my wife from her 1st hubs for their 2 ds, and an insurance payout in my wife's name - Criminal Compliance - a joke!!!! Hong Kong Phooey would have made a better job!!!!!! Showing my age at remembering that cartoon

    They were going to ammend one of the assesments until i pointed out that this would affect another assesment that is under appeal.
  • bdt1
    bdt1 Posts: 891 Forumite
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    But suppose question is, arethey going to CORRECTLY amend the 1st decision?

    Surely even if this has a knock on effect to 2nd decision that is under appeal, then if they are correcting the 1st decision, it should be done, irrespective of later assessments(and any effect it may have on them), CSA should have a duty of care to all of it's customers in so much as the assessments are 100% correct.
  • CSA_Help
    CSA_Help Posts: 1,318 Forumite
    bdt1 wrote: »
    But suppose question is, arethey going to CORRECTLY amend the 1st decision?

    Surely even if this has a knock on effect to 2nd decision that is under appeal, then if they are correcting the 1st decision, it should be done, irrespective of later assessments(and any effect it may have on them), CSA should have a duty of care to all of it's customers in so much as the assessments are 100% correct.


    Basically i was giving appeal rights as an assesment was done that didnt breach tollerance so complaints implemented this to give me appeal rights. This assesment is at tribunal just now and whatever the outcome they would recalculte the first assesment . Now provable that both are wrong.
  • bdt1
    bdt1 Posts: 891 Forumite
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    As said similar to ours! We had re-assessment in Dec 07, but details of this were applied to decisions from Jan 04, Nov 04, and Feb 06, even though the 07 decison was totally incorrect, and under appeal, all of the other decsions had to be corrected, we would have been out of time, as well over 13 months for 04/06 decisions, but as they were supersessions, this gave us new appeal rights.

    So, I suspect the re-calculation will go ahead, and then further re-calculatoins as in our case - totall utter waste of time, money, stress etc etc, the trouble this has caused my family and the PWC is unbelieveable - I mean she kept on being told by CSA I was in arrears of over 34k, they got interim charge, so PWC kept hounding CSA asking them to force sale of my house!!! Dangerous as she obvioulsy genuinely believed these arrears to be true, as CSA told her they were!!

    Well now 3 assessments corrected, and below what I have been paying, and 4th incorrect, but when worked out, again will show I have overpaid for this period, my arrears should/will be £0, and in fact I will have overpaid PWC, she will be hopping mad, after beingt old for 3 years I was in 34k arrears!! This is not a good situation for PWC or NRP
  • bdt1 wrote: »
    I mean she kept on being told by CSA I was in arrears of over 34k, they got interim charge, so PWC kept hounding CSA asking them to force sale of my house!!! Dangerous as she obvioulsy genuinely believed these arrears to be true, as CSA told her they were!!

    I'm interested to know how you know this? Is it the famous CSA adherence to the data protection act?? Or do you have it direct from pwc?
    Please do not confuse me with other gratefulsforhelp. x
  • CSA_Help
    CSA_Help Posts: 1,318 Forumite
    I'm interested to know how you know this? Is it the famous CSA adherence to the data protection act?? Or do you have it direct from pwc?

    Similar situation

    PWC asked enforcement to stir up some !!!!!! un beknown to me but was part of my appeals papers . Data protection rules don't apply to some muppets.

    Bank statements

    mask out the account number ,sort code and the banks phone number yes i did say the banks phone number but leave a relevant address in all of them.
  • That's interesting, so record of phone calls and stuff?
    Please do not confuse me with other gratefulsforhelp. x
  • CSA_Help
    CSA_Help Posts: 1,318 Forumite
    That's interesting, so record of phone calls and stuff?

    YES

    PWC requests we stir up some !!!!!! logged xx//xx/xxxx @10:15

    PWC we stir up some more !!!!!! on same date 3 hours apart

    so enforcement kick into action put a load of numbers into a fu*ing washing machine by the looks of it and come up with a totally wrong figures.
  • Blimey! If I hadn't had experience of them myself I'd be astounded.
    Please do not confuse me with other gratefulsforhelp. x
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