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London areas - where to buy?

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  • Doozergirl
    Doozergirl Posts: 33,887 Forumite
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    I live in one of the safest areas for crime in the country and I simply will not go out alone after dark after my experiences of living in Streatham Hill for 10 years. Safe it is not. :(

    Grassy? :rotfl: Yeah, right.
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  • Sapphire
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    I have a lot of friends who live in Streatham and love it there. Some of said friends are fairly wealthy and could have the pick of the majority of London areas, but choose to stay in Streatham.

    I wouldn't feel safe alone in Streatham Hill, nor in central Streatham around the High Road near the train station. There are indeed a lot of social problems there - I've never lived in the area but have had dealings with one of the churches there, so have had some insight. Also, the traffic round there is simply appalling - on Saturdays it's often one long tailback all the way from Clapham to the big retail park at Purley Way!

    But most of the Tooting end of Streatham is very nice, and I really do like the Streatham Vale/Streatham Common area which is really "my kind of place" - a sense of community without unnecessary gentrification.

    Well, these areas are of course fine if you enjoy the ever-growing 'multiculturism' and everything that goes with it. :eek:

    Having lived in Streatham and Clapham (and Islington - several places), I would say they - and other areas around there, such as Tooting - are definitely by no means 'safe'. Anyone who says they are is deluding themselves.

    The bus service from Streatham to Central London is awful - it goes through Brixton, with all the attendant yelling and aggro this involves. I did that trip for several years and it used to completely finish me off. These areas are also incredibly dirty and run down - although I suppose you can get used to anything.

    Streatham actually used to be a nice area before 20 years ago, with fine architecture and good shops. Lambeth Council put paid to that, and year after year it gets worse. Clapham, IMHO, was also much nicer then - even had its own cinema, and lovely friendly little local shops. Now the High Street, with all the tacky bars and huge supermarket, is really nasty.
  • The_Bargain_Hunters
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    :rotfl: Get straight on M1 and go North!
    Growing old is manditory, Growing up is optional! :j
  • clairehi
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    Sapphire wrote:
    Well, these areas are of course fine if you enjoy the ever-growing 'multiculturism' and everything that goes with it. :eek:

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    LOL. Multicultural, now there's a good euphemism!
  • lowis
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    QUOTE: Well, these areas are of course fine if you enjoy the ever-growing 'multiculturism' and everything that goes with it.


    in islington it is the gangs of white feral kids that cause the problems...if it wasn't for multi-culturalism London would be a vile and dull place full of white middle-class, insular bigots. if you don't like mutli-cultrualism i would suggest moving to a tiny little village somewhere in middle england. immigration has been going on for hundreds of years (thousands in fact) and has made valuable contributions to our society - not just negative ones. how many people here can safely say hand on heart that there DNA is 100% english? not many i would imagine...
  • lynzpower
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    I agree with lowis really its not multiculturalism that makes my area good/bad ( in fact my areas really good, predominantly non white, very low crime considering its in london!)

    MUlticulturalism is THE main reason I live here, its SOOOOOOOOOOO much more interesting than dullsville where I was raised.
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  • whambamboo
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    lowis wrote:
    QUOTE: Well, these areas are of course fine if you enjoy the ever-growing 'multiculturism' and everything that goes with it.


    in islington it is the gangs of white feral kids that cause the problems...if it wasn't for multi-culturalism London would be a vile and dull place full of white middle-class, insular bigots.

    So you are saying most of the country is full of bigots (there are very few non-white people outside London and the big cities).... Hmm, I wonder who the bigot is.
    if you don't like mutli-cultrualism i would suggest moving to a tiny little village somewhere in middle england. immigration has been going on for hundreds of years (thousands in fact) and has made valuable contributions to our society - not just negative ones. how many people here can safely say hand on heart that there DNA is 100% english? not many i would imagine...

    The problem isn't immigration per se, it's the violent criminal immigrants.

    Like these guys:
    TWO car thieves who wrote rap songs boasting of "blowing away" their victims have been jailed.

    Dongo Owoola, 19, Nanguy Gbedje, 17, and four friends attacked six motorists in 18 days.

    The gang brandished knives and pistol-whipped drivers during November's crime spree in East and South East London. Another person was mugged.

    The judge named this pair even though the younger was under the normal age because they were local rap stars recording music glorifying violence and mayhem..

    Ah yes, such vibrant culture. Much better than those tiny little villages in middle england isn't it? Forget maypoles and architecture, what we need is guns and 'b1tches'.

    There is nothing wrong with immigrants - I live in an area with a high Indian population - but if you think it's a good thing for the whole of the country to turn into Brixton you must be pretty stupid. Perhaps if you are 25 with no kids it's fun, but have you any idea how bad the schools are in these areas and how they turn out violent unemployable criminals by the dozen. It is impossible to raise a family in these areas unless you get your children into the one local school that's not a training ground for gangsters and crack dealers. And oh yes, the houses in that area cost £100k more. Hmm. How nice.
    My policies are based not on some economics theory, but on things I and millions like me were brought up with: an honest day's work for an honest day's pay; live within your means; put by a nest egg for a rainy day; pay your bills on time; support the police - Margaret Thatcher.
  • lowis
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    So you are saying most of the country is full of bigots (there are very few non-white people outside London and the big cities).... Hmm, I wonder who the bigot is.

    no - i am saying that if it wasn't for the fantastic mix of cultures in london that we would just have a town mainly comprising of white middle-class bigots - much like a typical 'middle-england' village. i used to live in a small village in Bedfordshire so know what i am talking about. and why do you think there are few non-whites outisde London? they are made to feel uncomfortable because of their skin colour or differences, in London the community is usually more welcoming.

    violent criminals come in all colours, shapes and sizes (i.e. ian huntley) so your argument is redundant and somewhat racist - for every news story you reference featuring non-whites i could come back at you with news stories featuring whites. i would say crime is actually a by-product of poverty and exclusion from society - it is not dependent on the colour of your skin. like i said before - the kids running riot in islington are white.

    i'm not suggesting the country should become like brixton, i am just saying that multi-culturism should not be used as a euphamism for all things bad.

    actually, may be London would be a better place if we had more 'maypoles and architecture'...:confused:
  • lynzpower
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    I thought london has the most "arhitecture" in the UK really :confused: what with all these wren buildings, buck house, houses of parl , henry moore sculptures at every turn...etc .etc
    :beer: Well aint funny how its the little things in life that mean the most? Not where you live, the car you drive or the price tag on your clothes.
    Theres no dollar sign on piece of mind
    This Ive come to know...
    So if you agree have a drink with me, raise your glasses for a toast :beer:
  • lowis
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    may be we could paint Tower 42, The Gerkin, Canary Wharf and Nelsons Column in candy stripes and attach some ribbons to them? they would be the MOTHERS of all maypoles.
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