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Lack of well paying jobs?

This may differ in London but certainly up here in the North of the UK its shocking. You will have your graduate jobs, I can't comment on them as I'm not a graduate but certainly for non skill jobs such as shop work/factory work/warehouse work its all min wage. I've been looking to switch employers for some time now, My £14k is rubbish considering the national average is £25K or so but around here I am extremely lucky to be getting £7 per hour, there is virtually no one paying that and even my current employer pays new employees min wage at £5.80 or so.

I don't know whether its the recession or migrant workers but it didn't used to be like this, in fact it used to be a rule that the crappier the job the better the pay to entice people to do it, not the case now.

Is it the same in your area?
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  • dave4545454
    dave4545454 Posts: 2,025 Forumite
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    yes, well with the very few jobs there are. i'm in the unemployment hotspot of the west midlands where most people are either unemployed or on very low wages
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  • tiernsee
    tiernsee Posts: 299 Forumite
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    I would add that in the South-West of England there are also very few well paying jobs. There are a lot of seasonal jobs (hotel, agriculture - low paid though) and of course the public sector jobs (NHS, local government, teaching) but honestly not much else. The average salary is, I assume, based on the whole of the UK - in which case areas like London and the South-East will skew it for other regions.

    Good luck OP with finding a new job.
  • bendix
    bendix Posts: 5,499 Forumite
    Right. So. We've established that low skilled roles that anyone of 3 million unemployed people can do are very low paid.

    Well, who would have thunk it?
  • I'm near to manchester, graduate positions depend on the sector i'd say. unskilled positions will pay minimum wage at least to start with.
    in fact it used to be a rule that the crappier the job the better the pay to entice people to do it

    People do not need to be enticed to the crappier the jobs, there are lots of applications for each position that becomes available.

    Personally i don't think that migrant workers are a problem, there just a convenient excuse for some people.(I'm not saying your doing this)


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  • scooby088
    scooby088 Posts: 3,385 Forumite
    I think the NMW has made a lot of people better off, that being said it has also created new jobs which were traditionally £6/£7 per hour to the NMW rate, it's a shame really it has helped the employers but for those wanting to move onto a better hourly rate are stuck in the low wage rut.
  • Kaaaaarl
    Kaaaaarl Posts: 168 Forumite
    Are you meant to pick up a shift allowance if you do 12 hour shifts? Reason I ask if because I see a load of security jobs for 60 hours a week, 5 12 hours shifts Monday to Friday. You have to sign a form to say you'll work 60 hours but they're only offering £5.80 an hour. My mate works in a factory doing 12 hour shifts and he's on £11 an hour thanks to his shift allowance.
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  • RacyRed
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    It isn't just in the regions.

    I left London because the hourly rate for my type of job was cut by 50% last year.

    Employers who are debt free and who knew their workloads would increase directly because of the recession, still jumped on the band wagon and introduced redundancies and wage reductions wherever they could.

    Almost all of the employees over 50 I knew who worked in a specific London financial sector have been dumped by their employers. Training posts for younger employees are drying up. They are employed at low rates but employers are less willing to invest in their training so the youngsters are either going to have to pay for their own training (it costs thousands) or face an uncertain future as an experienced but unqualified employee.

    3 or 4 years down the line there will be a major skill shortage - exactly the same as last time round.
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  • DKLS
    DKLS Posts: 13,461 Forumite
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    Dunno am seeing plenty of roles advertised in my sector for decent money 35K ++ and some very attractive contract rates being offered.
  • Mini_Bear
    Mini_Bear Posts: 604 Forumite
    to be able to be paid more than nmw or 7/hr surely you need qualifications? Even in essex call centre workers are lucky to get 14k - but with correct qualifications can get to the giddy heights of 17k. its not possible to live on these wages and every1 i know (still in the sector) has bar and shop work at the weekd!
    Bad times.
  • westv
    westv Posts: 6,508 Forumite
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    DKLS wrote: »
    Dunno am seeing plenty of roles advertised in my sector for decent money 35K ++ and some very attractive contract rates being offered.

    And your sector is?
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