Help identifying type of lock for home insurance

littlesnuggy

I've just moved into a new flat and am trying to get some contents insurance quotes. On the first comparison site I've been onto, one of the questions is regarding the type of lock and gives a drop-down list of options.

The following pictures are the locks on the main front door entrance to the building and to my individual flat: can anyone help me identify the type please?

Thank you!

Main front door


Top lock on flat door


Bottom lock on flat door

essexmumof4

Front door to building is a standard yale night latch.

Top flat lock is a narrow style standard yale night latch

Bottom flat lock is a mortice dead lock, you need to check for a british kite mark on the face plate (part where the bolt comes out), if the kite mark is not there it should tell you how many levers it has (2,3 etc..). It is only insurance spec if it has a kite mark.

HTH (DH is a locksmith).

littlesnuggy

Fab - thank you! Will go and have a look (under the paint) now!

iamcornholio

Change the grey yale striaghtaway - they are so easy to open ...... you only need to look at them in a certain way

BTW, the two Yale locks are called Cylinder Rim Locks

Also, more important for the mortice lock is that it has the proper keep in the frame to stop the frame splitting if forced. It should be like a steel box set into the frame and not just a strip of metal on the surface

littlesnuggy

iamcornholio wrote: »

Change the grey yale striaghtaway - they are so easy to open ...... you only need to look at them in a certain way

Can you recommend a type to change it to, please? I've already had to get a heating engineer, plumber and electrician in for odd jobs so am I also going to need a locksmith?!

Locknut

You can have it upgraded to a BS3621 night latch that would mean the whole door then came up to minimum insurance requirements.
HTH

Ohh and at a rough guess the bottom mortice lock is a ERA profit bs3621 -1998 God I need to get out more!

CountryGoose

I wouldn't bother replacing the grey Yale - it does nothing really to help with the door security and can be a real aid to locking yourself out.

Replace the deadlock (as you don't know who has they keys) with a BS mortice sashlock (ie one that takes a handle). Now you can't lock yourself out.

Fit some mortice bolts and a security chain if you're concerned about visitors.

macman

littlesnuggy wrote: »

Can you recommend a type to change it to, please? I've already had to get a heating engineer, plumber and electrician in for odd jobs so am I also going to need a locksmith?!

You don't need a locksmith to change a rimlock. It's a simple DIY job, or if you can't do it any handyperson can.

iamcornholio

CountryGoose wrote: »

I wouldn't bother replacing the grey Yale - it does nothing really to help with the door security and can be a real aid to locking yourself out.

So keep it ..... have poor security and potentially be locked out?

Incidentally, I know this does does not apply to the OP due to no apparent letterbox in the door, but these grey Yale locks are sooooo easy to open via a letterbox or with a bit of plastic or metal shim. And the number of people who just "pop out" and don't bother to lock the mortice :eek:

CountryGoose

iamcornholio wrote: »

So keep it ..... have poor security and potentially be locked out?

Incidentally, I know this does does not apply to the OP due to no apparent letterbox in the door, but these grey Yale locks are sooooo easy to open via a letterbox or with a bit of plastic or metal shim. And the number of people who just "pop out" and don't bother to lock the mortice :eek:

I should have said remove and don't replace.......