Rewiring asap - help!

Welshie_2

Will try to post this somewhere else too as am not sure it's really in the right place!
We are due to complete on new house tomorrow, and plan to re-wire, have a quote from a sparky to carry out the work this wkend for cash in hand (roughly £300 cheaper). Sparky tells us that we will have a certificate for this which is valid for 5 years. Does this sound right? Do we then need to get someone else in to check the leci and verify that all is ok? I know that we may need to prove that work is legitimate when we come to sell the house. Read someone else's posting on here - something to do with part p, but have no idea what it's all about - where can I get advice about what we need to expect from an electrician?
Thanks!

kat21

I would look in your free local paper for an approved electrician to get an idea of what the costs are. Then you will be in a better position with regards to any offer. Always try and get more than one quote anyway, you never know you might be supprised and it shouldnt hurt just to get quotes in. you also need to be more specific in your posting, for example what work is being done, does this include fittings and making good any possible damage? I personally havent heard of a short term certificate, but then its not clear what work your having done anyway, but five years seems abit odd?
kat21

Skiduck

how can he certify it doing cash in hand? - if he does, he must have a good relationship with the inland revenue

ollyk

Welshie wrote:

Will try to post this somewhere else too as am not sure it's really in the right place!
We are due to complete on new house tomorrow, and plan to re-wire, have a quote from a sparky to carry out the work this wkend for cash in hand (roughly £300 cheaper). Sparky tells us that we will have a certificate for this which is valid for 5 years. Does this sound right? Do we then need to get someone else in to check the leci and verify that all is ok? I know that we may need to prove that work is legitimate when we come to sell the house. Read someone else's posting on here - something to do with part p, but have no idea what it's all about - where can I get advice about what we need to expect from an electrician?
Thanks!

If you pay cash in hand you will get a !!!! job. Also under Part P I believe it is the responsibility of the house owner to ensure all electrical jobs are notified. Don't do it mate. I have seen many CIH jobs and they are all !!!!!! for one reason or another, with no comebacks if anything goes wrong!

Goto https://www.diynot.com sound advice their!

Skiduck

save money or save your life?

that's the question you should ask yourself

arealhighlander

Is this cash in hand electrician certified? As in he has City & Guilds Electrotechnical Technology (2330), or City & Guilds 2391 Inspection, Testing and Certification of Installations, and City & Guilds 16th Edition IEE Wiring Regulations (2381). Is he a member of NICEIC or ECA (and can he prove it).

Or is he some one who is an electrician because "he's been doing it for years"

All work must be carried out in accordance with Part P of the Building Regulations. A certified electrician will supply a certificate attesting to this being done. It does NOT run out. 5 years? Maybe this electrician is used to industrial installations, which do require periodic certification.

Im not saying he is a cowboy - he may be doing it and not putting it through is books hence the cash in hand, or may work for an electrical company and be doing a homer.

But for your sake and to avoid future problems, make sure he is a PROPER electrician (as above!). As him to explain what Part P is (dont mention building regs) and see what he says. If he doesnt know what your talking about, he is NOT legit. Suggest you have a quick Google on Part P Building Regulations so you have ain idea before you speak to him.

simo_3

Firstly is the sparky part P verified ?
This is required to carry out work of this level on a domestic premises and to be able to inspect,test and certificate the installation to current standards.
If you are having a full rewire than he should be supplying you with an Electrical installation certificate, a schedule of inspections and a schedule of test results. The maximum period permissable between inspection and testing is 10 years for a domestic dwelling (or at change of ownership)under normal usage you are then meant to have a periodic inspection carried out which normally is forgotton about but whith changes in regulations/insurances not that far away up to date certification is likely to become more important so if he is offering only a 5 year certificate this does seem low unless he can see a valid reason to only offer this
Ask him if he has the city and guilds 2391 (inspection and testing) qualification and which trade body his part P verification is with (niceic,iee +others ) if he is verified then it should be safe to go ahead, if he is not it in theory is still possible in some cases to have the installation double checked by the buildings control dept at local council if they are willing and at normally quite a cost and if they find something wrong it will cost to put it right

ollyk

Listen folks is there any point in asking questions? If the house burns down after this *cowboy* has done his work you will have no reciept and he will deny ever seeing you or the property involved. Insurance will be asking a few questions too. Cowboys steal money off highly skilled trades people who are willing to do a job properly, and fully comply with regulations. You will more than likely have to call someone else back for faulty work and they won't want to touch the job because they won't know what other hidden dangers may be lurking behind a wall. DON'T DO IT.

raymond

There are just as many "cowboys" who have all the qualifications and certifications and charge you a fortune.

Judge someone by recommendation, not the amount they charge.

Also, contrary to popular belief, an electrician does not need to be " Part P registered" to rewire a house, in fact you can even do it yourself if you know how then get an inspection done afterwards.

bazza1603

Hi,

Do you live in Tyneside? If so I can recommend a good electrictrian whos just gone through the local authority tests. Has certificate and receipt book!

Good luck with your new house

Regards

Barry

Skiduck

raymond wrote:

There are just as many "cowboys" who have all the qualifications and certifications and charge you a fortune.

Judge someone by recommendation, not the amount they charge.

Also, contrary to popular belief, an electrician does not need to be " Part P registered" to rewire a house, in fact you can even do it yourself if you know how then get an inspection done afterwards.

therein lies the debate about a "competant person" - it's a popular misconception that people can label themselves competent, "I'm sure I can do it - I'm competent".
definition:
1. having suitable or sufficient skill, knowledge, experience, etc., for some purpose; properly qualified: He is perfectly competent to manage the bank branch.
2. adequate but not exceptional.


Quite ambiguous.
all I will say is, in everyday life, a competent person is someone who knows what they are doing, when it comes to anything that endagers life, competency has to be properly qualified AND insured.