bbc progs on property development

123robint

IMHO programs that glamourise the refurbishement of property are hugely misleading and downright fraudulent

homes under the hammer
to buy or not to buy
escape to the country

An amateur DIY getting involves with some of those renovation issues - absolute nightmare

A lady buyer saying she bought a property at auction spent 5k on it and made 30k on resale - that kind of obvious set up by the producer

we all know the realities of even simple renovation and how the costs spiral especially when you have to get a
tradesman in (even if you can find a real one)

I am so appalled at the inaccuracies presented on these programs
should carry a health warning (DO NOT BELIEVE A WORD WE SAY)

The BBC has forgotten its charter as a public service broadcaster and has the cheek to charge £145 pa for the droit de seigneur

Im so speechless I cant write anymore about this - got a red mist cant see the screen:mad:

btw before i get shot down in flames - i have nothing against lady diyers, and good luck to you if you can manage, but as an indentured journeyman who learnt his manual skills the hard way, i shudder at some of the appalling mess that an amateur diyer can make - but the spirit was willing enough. Lady diyers generally do not naturally have manual skills and i shrink in horror when i see them using power tools. Even a hammer and nails is beyond most people, yes they will somehow kncok a nail in, straight? in the right place, and the right size? not as simple as it sounds. Even screwing can be difficult

these programs gloss over this completely and when you see power tools used - they dont wear safety gear, goggles, gloves etc. the home is an extremely dangerous place as defined by the health and safety executive especially with DIY. Never let children anywhere near a work site - does the BBC care?

misfire

I often wonder how they manage to renovate a whole delapidated house for 15k wiring, heating, plumbing, kitchen,bathroom damp..... when we get quotes for jobs on our house they seem to be so expensive.... I just don't understand who they can get it done (often with trades in) so cheap.

theartfullodger

123rob....

Does your TV have an "Off" button?? Mine does...

We'll have people complaining about the daft stuff printed in the "Daily Mail" if your line of logic were followed... Hmmmnnn maybe not a bad idea.....

Riq

It's tv, get over it.

If this is all you have in life to worry about then well done you.

spirit

123robint wrote: »

. Even screwing can be difficult

Tell me about it :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Jonbvn

123robint wrote: »

Lady diyers generally do not naturally have manual skills and i shrink in horror when i see them using power tools. Even a hammer and nails is beyond most people, yes they will somehow kncok a nail in, straight? in the right place, and the right size? not as simple as it sounds. Even screwing can be difficult

Grossly generalised BS.

Shouldn't you be wolf whistling women from some scaffolding somewhere, with the crack of your *rse showing?;)

theartfullodger

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If you have to ask the question you don't need the answer...

Blimey, so why am I replying to his original post????

Coulds't clarify dear Sir.. What does "Retirded" mean, please??

Cheers!

Artful

BornAtTheRightTime

theartfullodger wrote: »

From "About me"....

Coulds't clarify dear Sir.. What does "Retirded" mean, please??

Artful

Possibly a typo and the OP meant to hit the 'a' key but hit 'i'.

Oh the irony! :rotfl:

tbs624

Leave it out BornatTheRightTime: that's an offensive term.

poppysarah

BBC Property !!!!!! might well be responsible for many poor souls getting involved in property development.

My favourites though are some of the Ch 4 Sarah Beeny stuff where people for their whole family in to help for free and then made big profits in a rising market. Sarah would occaisionally point out the cost of the free labour would impact on future projects as family aren't going to do it for free often.

And I hope the tax man watches it and sees that people made money that needed to be taxed.

123robint

no it was not a typo, it was a cage rattler cos i spat my dummy out

yes you are right there is an off switch and in fact i have offed the atrocious bbc for good and refuse to pay my licence fee (there's a money saver for you). To be fair i do play by the rules and do not receive live broadcast tv.

and btw Im all for women doing the mans job, fine by me all that sweaty work. Its just that I sympathise with the problem, they often have to get so called tradesmen in to do the work, then you see what rubbish they have done at enormous expense (like my dear neighbour who has been right royally stitched up.

and for those of you talented types try the " hammer a nail into a tree trunk test"

take a sawn off mature tree trunk up ended on your lawn and see who can knock a 2" wire nail in straight using say a 1/2lb ball pein hammer (claw hammer is cheating cos you can pull out your mistakes - its a good one for the kids so long as they don't hammer each other

Remember the point I am trying to make here perhaps not too clearly is that the naive home-owner(BnQ is full of them at weekends) might be unwisely encouraged to buy property for renovation on the basis of grossly optimistic presentations made in the program - never a word about building regs btw

moneysaver also means don't waste your money

i am pleased to see a spirited response - really this has a serious point, and btw i don't think the press wouldn't go into print with such artistic abandon (oh maybe the Sun)