"PCN" from Civil Enforcement LTD

juno

Again it's just one side. The bits where I've written stuff over are the only other bits with printing - it has lots of gaps. There's not much to it iykwim

AlexisV

I like the 'Notice Before Legal Action' at an angle.

Looks like 'Sale Now On!'. Just needs to be in Comic Sans to complete the effect.

landmark

AlexisV wrote: »

I like the 'Notice Before Legal Action' at an angle.

Looks like 'Sale Now On!'. Just needs to be in Comic Sans to complete the effect.

You mean like this:rotfl:

NOTICE BEFORE
LEGAL ACTION

robredz

You could stamp it up ACCEPTED FOR VALUE, putting the car reg number, across the wording as the legal fiction being invoiced, and send it back for a joke, but that would only encourage them........

trisontana

I like that scales of justice logo on the letter. Anyone would think they are making it look like a legitimate letter from the courts. The name "Civil Enforcement" is another pathetic attempt to give this company the legitimacy it doesn't deserve.

taffy056

Also you are a bit knackered if you were paying this if you have no cheque book or credit/debit cards lol

Not that I am saying you should pay a scam

Clucksy

If I remember correctly the next letter will be green, followed by a new letter in almost identical format from Newlyn their "legal" team. IGNORE IGNORE IGNORE - don't waste your energy sending dummied up replies - all you are doing is proving to them that all the details they have on you are accurate. Just like phone scams - tell 'em nothing!

Another_CEL_Victim

Sorry to partially hijack your thread OP. I've been really stupid and HAVE contacted Newlyn to tell them on 31st August 2010 that I was not the driver of my car. (I really wasn't by the way)! They said they would refer the matter back to Civil Enforcement. I told them fine but that I wouldn't be paying as not the driver and not to send me any more letters or I would consider it harassment. Was told they wouldn't write to me again but they have done. Phoned them again, couldn't speak to the same lady but they did have a note of my earlier conversation. Ended up hanging up on them as was going round in circles.

Does this mean they are likely to take me to Court given that I have been in contact with them?

Is there any legislation I can quote if they do write to me again?

Thank you, and aplogies again OP.

landmark

Another_CEL_Victim wrote: »

Does this mean they are likely to take me to Court given that I have been in contact with them?

NO they wouldn't dare. In fact I am not aware of any PPC who has ever done so; but people like us have sued them in court;)

Another_CEL_Victim wrote: »

Is there any legislation I can quote if they do write to me again?

You can threaten to sue them for harassment quoting the following: -

Section 40 of the Administration of Justice Act
“S40 Punishment for unlawful harassment of debtors.
1.A person commits an offence if, with the object of coercing another person to pay money claimed from the other as a debt due under a contract he-
harasses the other with demands for payment which, in respect of their frequency, or the manner or occasion of making any such demand, or of any threat or publicity by which any demand is accompanied, are calculated to subject him or members of his family or household to alarm, distress or humiliation;
falsely represents, in relation to the money claimed, that criminal proceedings lie for failure to pay it;
falsely represents himself to be authorised in some official capacity to claim or enforce payment; or
utters a document falsely represented by him to have some official character, or purporting to have some official character which he know it has not.
2.A person may be guilty of an offence by virtue of sub-section (1) (a) above if he concerts with others in the taking of such actions as is described in that paragraph, notwithstanding that his own course of conduct does not by itself amount to harassment.”

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Protection from Harassment Act 1997

Offence of harassment. E+W.
(1)A person who pursues a course of conduct in breach of section 1 is guilty of an offence..
(2)A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months, or a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale, or both

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This should frighten them. They should leave you alone then. If they still contact you after this, you can apply for an injunction as well as sue them.

Another_CEL_Victim

Thank you SO MUCH Landmark. I really appreciate your time and trouble in replying. Feel a whole lot better now I must say!