oh dear... Lib Dem Support Slumps To 8%

tcr_3

Well I didn't vote Liberal in the expectation they were going to leap into bed with the Tories. Had I known that I'd have bit the bullet and voted Labour.

Gorgeous_George

The Lib Dems were in danger of becoming a credible alternative to Labour and the Conservatives. although they had little choice, the coalition is a disaster for the LDs - unelectable once more and when the cuts start to bite they will join the Conservatives on the scrapheap for a generation.

All this is a bad thing for the UK - we need a strong opposition.

The sooner we move to two party politics the better. Let's call them democrats and Republicans.

To think that we go around the world bombing people into democracy only for our third place politicians to wield more power than the party that came second.

GG

apt

The sooner we move to multiparty politics with a different electoral system the better. The American two party system in dreadful and one of the reasons for low electoral turnouts.

lemonjelly

Puddleglum wrote: »

We always knew that the incoming government would quickly become unpopular as there were no tax giveaways available, no populist measures (possible example, banning tobacco advertising) to be made. We wanted them all to get together and sort out the problems as effectively as possible.

It does seem that the Conservatives have managed to make the best of a nasty situation by pinning the majority of the unpopularity on the Lib Dems and that we (the electorate) seem to have very short memories (don't look too clever now do we?)

Can't agree with this at all. The lib dems are acting in a contrary manner to their campaign. I have said elsewhere that one of Clegg's lines was to not threaten the recovery by making savage cuts. Now, we see savage cuts wholly endorsed by Clegg.

StevieJ wrote: »

It is not a matter of being popular or not it is completely reversing their pre election stance, even their trumpeted personal allowance is merely a shadow. The Tories are having a right old laugh as they dump all the negatives on the LibDems, just look at what happened to one of the LibDem favourites Capital gains tax

Exactly. there is only so long this'll go on. Mainstay party support is falling, not just the fly by night voters, but hardcore supporters are questioning the ideological differences between what the party said it stood for & would do, & what they are doing now by towing a tory line.

Members are already struggling to justify the party's actions on the doorstep. How long before we get defections, or worse still, the party splits?

StevieJ wrote: »

But they don't appear to be admitting to compromise i.e the VAT issue, Clegg now says increasing VAT is the only way

:T

Clegg said a lot prior to the GE, & almost immediately after announcing the coalition, has spouted the line "we've now seen the books, it is worse than we thought, this is the only way...". I don't believe him. And to be honest, don't think I'll believe him again.

A._Badger

lemonjelly wrote: »

Clegg said a lot prior to the GE, & almost immediately after announcing the coalition, has spouted the line "we've now seen the books, it is worse than we thought, this is the only way...". I don't believe him. And to be honest, don't think I'll believe him again.

In fairness to Clegg (whom I loathe) have you never before seen a politician win office and turn out to have been a liar?

Cameron was just as bad - promising a referendum on the latest EU sell-out then pretending he hadn't.

They are, almost all of them, sociopaths who will say just about anything to get power and prestige.

Graham_Devon

lemonjelly wrote: »

Clegg said a lot prior to the GE, & almost immediately after announcing the coalition, has spouted the line "we've now seen the books, it is worse than we thought, this is the only way...". I don't believe him. And to be honest, don't think I'll believe him again.

I guess at least we know he IS a real politician then.

Every party was spouting lies in the election. (bar parties such as the BNP or UKIP, who are a prime example of where you get by stating the truth and your beliefs). You tell the truth and you will be slaughtered. Lying, unfortunately, is the only way to win the electorate. Happened with Obama too. Work on hope. Get power. Deliver reality.

sss555s

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I guess at least we know he IS a real politician then.

Every party was spouting lies in the election. (bar parties such as the BNP or UKIP, who are a prime example of where you get by stating the truth and your beliefs). You tell the truth and you will be slaughtered. Lying, unfortunately, is the only way to win the electorate. Happened with Obama too. Work on hope. Get power. Deliver reality.

You forgot the main part...


Feathering their nests!

lemonjelly

The last 3 posts are quite demoralising.

Here's a radical facking idea. How about a party that does what it'll say it'll do. Lets call it the ronseal party or something, does what it says on the tin.

I dunno, perhaps that could give us some political stability. Perhaps it'll go some way to restoring trust in the political system, & cause the populace to re-engage with their MP's, and have faith in what they're doing.

Perhaps then, with a reasonable and defined set of policies we could have a cohesive government, displaying good standards & integrity. Perhaps this would spill over into evreyday life?

We could have a government able to hold its head high, able to form good long term plans. We wouldn't have nasty suprises hitting us, or devils hidden within detail.

Maybe it'd improve us as a nation.

Am I being unrealistic? Is it really too much to ask? Really?

Graham_Devon

The ronseal party, LOL, I love it

In all seriousness though, people want to live in fairy land. Promising reality won't actually get people anywhere.

Prime example is the banks....the country is first complaining that banks lent too much, banks are the devil. When they don't lend as much, people complain the banks are not lending enough, can't get my loan, banks are the devil.

A._Badger

lemonjelly wrote: »

Am I being unrealistic? Is it really too much to ask? Really?

Yes. Look around the world and then tell us that such a government (if you can find one) isn't a tiny expection to an overwhelming rule.