private car clamping to be abolished.

whatajoke1

davidlizard wrote: »

For example, they could park their clamping van across the car park entrance (on the private land side) and refuse to move it unless £XXX was paid.

In Scotland this would be seen as extortion and theft (what clamping is regarded as north of the border), so if the courts in england/wales took the same stance it would also be illegal.

Coupon-mad

whatajoke1 wrote: »

In Scotland this would be seen as extortion and theft (what clamping is regarded as north of the border), so if the courts in england/wales took the same stance it would also be illegal.

Sincerely hope that 'deliberately blocking in' would be viewed as illegal immobilisation as well.

Rupert_Bear

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Rupert Bear you actually believe what it says in the Daily Mail?

This bit isn't even true of Public Highway parking, let alone private land:

'Any motorist who refuses to pay will face the same sanction that applies to public roads or council car parks, which is a visit from the bailiff or a trip to the small claims court.'

Errrrr, no Daily Mail, that's not the sanction that applies to public roads or council car parks if you don't pay! Visit from a bailiff or Small Claims indeed! Have they not heard of parking tickets and appeals and adjudicators (with most appeals to adjudicators being upheld?).

:rotfl:

Don't shoot the messenger:rotfl:

Coupon-mad

OK, we won't, but I presume you realise that private parking tickets are not enforceable and highly unlikely to suddenly become so!

Even if there are some changes to regulate firms then TBH that wouldn't be a bad thing if it meant that those sad uninformed victims who actually pay are not charged extortionate amounts.

And those of us who can see any 'ticket' for what it is will still not end up paying it.

geordieracer

davidlizard wrote: »

I cannot see the clampers taking this with good grace, and will no doubt find some very nasty tricks to get round this.

For example, they could park their clamping van across the car park entrance (on the private land side) and refuse to move it unless £XXX was paid.

Where would the law stand on that - and even more so, would the police bother to turn up and take the motorists side in this circumstance - or would the motorist have to pay under pressure and resort to the courts to claim this back - in much the same manner as getting back clamping fees illegally obtained?

I reckon a sharp increase in charges will happen very shortly to cover them going out of business

Rupert_Bear

Coupon-mad wrote: »

OK, we won't, but I presume you realise that private parking tickets are not enforceable and highly unlikely to suddenly become so!

Even if there are some changes to regulate firms then TBH that wouldn't be a bad thing if it meant that those sad uninformed victims who actually pay are not charged extortionate amounts.

And those of us who can see any 'ticket' for what it is will still not end up paying it.

I know from my own experience they are not. Last year we parked too long at a retail park. We were awarded a parking ticket and just ignored all the correspondance that went with it. We never contacted them and eventually they gave up.

I do hope you are right and that they remain unforceable. If not then the clampers will seek revenge that way.

Rupert_Bear

lil-smeg wrote: »

It's about time the government took a stand to the rouge wheel clamping firms, who think they can bully others into making payments for stupid amounts of money.

It has been a long way coming but now they are changing the law really does so help for those who may have otherwise been forced to pay hundreds to get there car un clampled

Bl...dy disgusting!!!!!!!!!