Where would I start on the payscales in the nhs?

I am currently working in the private sector and have seen a job in the nhs that i am applying for advertising between £25,472 - £34,189.

Would I still start at the bottom of the scale even though I am earning more than that at the moment, or would I start on the next increment up above my current salary?

If I was moving from another job within the nhs I have been told that I would start on the next increment up if it was the same banding, but not sure if it would work the same coming from the private sector.

I really want to work in the nhs but do not want to take a pay cut to do so.

Thanks
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  • you would start at the bottom of the payscale.

    most people in the public sector earn less than they would do in the private sector, with the same qualifications and experience.
  • Guitar
    Guitar Posts: 157 Forumite
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    [FONT=&quot]You'd start at the bottom. If people could negotiate higher increments they'd be hell on as everyone would start demanding it.

    If you move jobs in the same band you'd also stay at the same increment. This does lead to strange situations like mine where I'm University educated, highly computer literate and work in an IT department with a colleague who doesn't even have GCSE maths, can barely use a computer but is paid almost £4k more than me because she's just been around so long, even though we're suppose to do the same job.

    The only way you'd start at a higher increment is if you've been down graded from a higher payband within the NHS
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  • bristol_pilot
    bristol_pilot Posts: 2,235 Forumite
    In the public sector you start at the bottom. There is no flexibility, even if that means they can't recruit you because they are offering less than your current salary. Crazy situation, not the norm in the private sector at all. Also, progression in public sector is usually by putting in lots of years of service rather than being performance-related. These are two reasons why people who would never survive in private industry are often to be found in droves in the public sector.
  • sweetilemon
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    Not sure about specifically nhs but generally whatever grade your job is there is a pay scale within that job you start at the bottom and go up over a set amount of time (mine is over 4 years). would it be a payrise at the top end?might be worth taking a paycut if its a payrise over a few years if you pkan to stay or move up the scale. something you could discuss before accepting it anyway. goodluck.
  • flutterby_lil
    flutterby_lil Posts: 1,879 Forumite
    You wouldn't necessarily start at the bottom! Depends on what you negotiate and how much they want you, speaking from personal experience and working for the NHS.
    Good luck
  • REDMADCURLS
    REDMADCURLS Posts: 3,766 Forumite
    I too worked for NHS and negotiated to start at same rate I was on, which wasn't bottom of the scale
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  • seabass
    seabass Posts: 72 Forumite
    I too worked for NHS and negotiated to start at same rate I was on, which wasn't bottom of the scale

    So it is possible then, i take it the interview is not the place to do the negotiations?
  • Vader123
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    You can negotiate by all means, if its a foundation trust they have more flexibility. Generally speaking you start on the bottom though (looks like its a band 6 your going for).

    Vader
  • ali-t
    ali-t Posts: 3,815 Forumite
    I have always negotiated in interview and been clear that if I was offered the job it would be on the condition that I was not financially disadvantaged. This was the case in my current job in the public sector and has also been in the past. I have never had a contract with the NHS but have been able to name my price for doing freelance work.
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  • SarEl
    SarEl Posts: 5,683 Forumite
    In the public sector you start at the bottom. There is no flexibility, even if that means they can't recruit you because they are offering less than your current salary. Crazy situation, not the norm in the private sector at all. Also, progression in public sector is usually by putting in lots of years of service rather than being performance-related. These are two reasons why people who would never survive in private industry are often to be found in droves in the public sector.

    Obviously written by someone who has no employment experience in the public sector. The rule that the public sector uses, as mentioned elsewhere here, is that appointment is usually at the bottom of the scale, but argument can be made to appoint at any point (including the top). This is done after an offer is made, not at interview. The interviwers will not have any authority to agree scale points, so there is no point in raising something that, if it came to a toss up between you and someone else, might make them pick the someone else! Generally they will appoint at the next point up from your existing salary (which they will perhaps want proving).

    And if you are looking for a sector that rewards length of service rather than performance, try another one - this hasn't been truie of the public sector for decades (around about the same time as the private sector), but people do like to keep these myths going. It no doubt makes them feel better.
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