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Lift broken in rented office with wheelchair bound employee

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  • Alan2020
    Alan2020 Posts: 518 Forumite
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    puddy wrote: »
    wrong, its wheelchair user and certainly not 'disabled person', by saying that you are defining the whole person by their disability. they are a person (first), with a disability (second) IF their disability is the point of the discussion (which it is in this case)

    so they are a person with a disability or mobility impairment

    but that will change next week or whatever

    Yes that's correct, now I remember it, its been a while. I do know that wheelchair bound is wrong as is disabled toilet, as they pointed out that the toilet is not disabled :rotfl:
  • puddy
    puddy Posts: 12,709 Forumite
    depends whats happened in it recently...

    i also remember a concept that 'disability' itself is open to debate. is it the person who is 'disabled' or has society disabled that person by not having ramps, wide exits, high shelves etc etc

    in this case, the employee was completely able, but the lift being broken has disabled his access
  • lee636
    lee636 Posts: 460 Forumite
    Riq wrote: »
    At my old office we had an awesome sliding chair thing down the fire escape. I was never allowed to try it. :(


    :rotfl:There may be a reason but ... no fair!!!! :rotfl:
  • googler
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    Alan2020 wrote: »
    Also wheelchair bound is a rude word, I know many people would not realise but in formal language it is like calling someone a !!!!!! or a paki. You can call him a disabled person. Don't mention in official writing or speech wheel chair bound as you can be sued!

    What a load of ****

    "Wheelchair-bound" (don't forget the hyphen) is merely a descriptive term.
  • Alan2020
    Alan2020 Posts: 518 Forumite
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    googler wrote: »
    What a load of ****

    "Wheelchair-bound" (don't forget the hyphen) is merely a descriptive term.

    I am sure you will be very happy when your boss calls you a retard or imbecile as that is a merely descriptive term ;) and may be what you are compared to an all knowing manager :D As I am equally sure in you were in charge of Tescos we would hear announcements like, Fat ugly Becky to the counter and it would be fine as it is merely a descriptive term :rotfl:
  • googler
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    edited 13 August 2010 at 6:42PM
    Alan2020 wrote: »
    I am sure you will be very happy when your boss calls you a retard or imbecile as that is a merely descriptive term ;) and may be what you are compared to an all knowing manager :D As I am equally sure in you were in charge of Tescos we would hear announcements like, Fat ugly Becky to the counter and it would be fine as it is merely a descriptive term :rotfl:

    OK, how should I describe someone who gets from A to B by using a wheelchair as opposed to those who get from A to B by the process of walking - in order to distinguish one from the other in conversation?

    My boss might describe me as 'tall' if he needed to identify me as distinct from someone who isn't. He might refer to my greying hair to distinguish me from others who have dark hair. 'Tall' is a descriptive term too - it doesn't need to be replaced with 'vertically abundant' or anything similar.

    Summoning anyone in Tesco to the counter doesn't actually require a descriptive term - merely a name. If I wanted to summon Fred the wheelchair user, I'd merely ask Fred to come to the counter, same as I'd just ask Becky to come to the counter.
  • sonastin
    sonastin Posts: 3,210 Forumite
    googler wrote: »
    OK, how should I describe someone who gets from A to B by using a wheelchair as opposed to those who get from A to B by the process of walking - in order to distinguish one from the other in conversation?

    My boss might describe me as 'tall' if he needed to identify me as distinct from someone who isn't. He might refer to my greying hair to distinguish me from others who have dark hair.

    Summoning anyone in Tesco to the counter doesn't actually require a descriptive term - merely a name. If I wanted to summon Fred the wheelchair user, I'd merely ask Fred to come to the counter, same as I'd just ask Becky to come to the counter.

    I'd suggest "wheelchair user", if they are using a wheelchair. Save "wheelchair bound" for someone who is actually bound to the chair
  • googler
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    edited 13 August 2010 at 6:47PM
    sonastin wrote: »
    I'd suggest "wheelchair user", if they are using a wheelchair. Save "wheelchair bound" for someone who is actually bound to the chair

    One definition of bound, I'll grant you, but my dictionary also has 'restricted' as one definition - for our subject, they are restricted to the use of a wheelchair, or by the use of the wheelchair, therefore 'wheelchair-bound', in the same sense as 'snowbound', 'fogbound', etc.
  • Alan2020
    Alan2020 Posts: 518 Forumite
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    googler wrote: »
    OK, how should I describe someone who gets from A to B by using a wheelchair as opposed to those who get from A to B by the process of walking - in order to distinguish one from the other in conversation?

    My boss might describe me as 'tall' if he needed to identify me as distinct from someone who isn't. He might refer to my greying hair to distinguish me from others who have dark hair.

    Summoning anyone in Tesco to the counter doesn't actually require a descriptive term - merely a name. If I wanted to summon Fred the wheelchair user, I'd merely ask Fred to come to the counter, same as I'd just ask Becky to come to the counter.

    Becky to the tills please
    2 mins later
    No not you old fat ugly Becky, can the young fit Becky please come to the tills :rotfl:Yes to distinguish one Becky from the other ;)

    Are you joking? If you read the thread someone already pointed out the correct way of politely being descriptive is Wheelchair user. I don't know what your office ethics is but generally calling people short, fat, ugly etc though highly accurate and descriptive would generally land you into big trouble :eek: However you can get away with things like tall, fit, beautiful as these are words used to flatter people, but if they decide to complain you will be in trouble ;) So don't be tempted to call your co-worker a sexy fit girl :A
  • sonastin
    sonastin Posts: 3,210 Forumite
    There's freedom of speech and then there's good manners. You can call anyone anything you want (apart from those names covered by nanny-state overkill anti-discrimination laws) but don't expect anyone to like you for it. And expect some pretty viscious names in return for being such an offensive t055er!
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