one for you LL, bit of an odd one this..

Tuscan

have any of you ever let out a property to someone that holds a legal in date shotgun licence?, would you have any issues with them having a Shotgun in your property and kept in a locked safe providing the safe never made any damage other that 4 small screw holes in a wall or floor that would be made good on leaving ?


would a LL even have to know it was there?


this would be in a very rural area...

princeofpounds

I don't know for sure, but I'd imagine that it's not the landlord's problem at all, apart from the permission to put the fixings in place. The licensing requirements all revolve around the responsibilities of the gun owner.

I think two cabinets is the norm though... one for the gun, one for ammo, though perhaps the ammo doesn't need to be in a cabinet... but it usually is.

tbs624

Presumably you are the potential T , with a SGC?

You would have to update the local plod/firearms unit with your new address and that cabinet is supposed to be secured to a brick wall, for which you would need to seek the LLs permission. You should declare it in advance to the LL: his LL insurances may be affected.

In rural areas, there is probably less over reaction about such things than there would be in an inner city area.

neverdespairgirl

tbs624 wrote: »

In rural areas, there is probably less over reaction about such things than there would be in an inner city area.

A lot easier to get a licence in rural areas, though (-:

Tuscan

yes i already am a licence holder have been for some years and im aware that i need to let my FEO know about the move as they will want to inspect the safe again etc, just next year we are selling up and renting for a few years. only one safe is needed as cart's dont have to be under lock key (its different for firearms though, rifles and rounds etc). not the end of the world as i can sign my gun over to a mate and leave it in his safe if it was to be an issue, although would be nice to still have it at home as will do a lot more shooting (clay pigeon) once we move to Suffolk. ill mention it to the LL up front and see what they say but wont be a deal breaker...

Wee_Willy_Harris

And if your surname is "Moat", I'd keep that quiet too!

Paul_the_Painter

Of course if the property has a loft, you could store up there, bolt to the rafters, and never even have to make good when you leave.

To be honest, although I'm not a LL, I have done a lot of work for them, and someone with a shotgun license would have been police checked, and therefore a LOT less likely to be a dodgy character and damage my property/not pay the rent.

The trick is to get to speak to the LL and not the 19yr office junior at the Agency.

View property without mentioning it, then offer on property subject to being able to take your shotgun. They then will have to speak to LL as they have an offer, rather than just saying NO without bothering, as it would be too difficult to check with every LL whose house you wanted to look at.

Also asking for permission after moving in might fall into the "too difficult" column of the agents daily planner.

Be upfront - but not too upfront!

Geenie

Tuscan wrote: »

have any of you ever let out a property to someone that holds a legal in date shotgun licence?, would you have any issues with them having a Shotgun in your property and kept in a locked safe providing the safe never made any damage other that 4 small screw holes in a wall or floor that would be made good on leaving ?


would a LL even have to know it was there?


this would be in a very rural area...[/QUOT

Excuse me if I state things that are wrong....I will stand corrected, but my knowledge of shotgun licencing is that my OH holds one and allows certain others to shoot on our farm.

Where the gun is stored is a matter for the police to check. We have had them come to check my OH's and also ascertain about others who had permission to shoot on our property. So I wouldn't allow anyone to have a weapon in a property unless these checks were done, and I had contact with the police to confirm it was legal, and where they were going to be shooting. IE, what is the address on the licence is very important. They will need to check the gun cupboard in the new rental property.

As an aside. We have had friends gun licences revoked due to depression and marital break down. Keep a check and don't be afraid to tell.

Tuscan

You are correct that's why I have to inform my FEO ( firearms entitlement officer) when I move so they can check the safe etc, gun will be stored at my RFD (registerd firarms dealer) whilst I move and fit the safe. However all that is imaterial if a LL dosent want me to fit a safe to a solid wall hence why I was asking for LLs to comment on this, a LL has no bearing on my entitlment to own a firearm but they would have the right to ask me not to keep it in there property in which case it will be stored at a local club or I can sign it over to a fellow licence holder so it can be stored in there safe.

As in above post's I already have the entitlement to own shotguns and have the relavent license with my photo on, with shotguns you do not have to show were you intend to shoot, you are getting confused with firearms such as rifles and the only address on a shotgun licence is the home address of the owner, this will change to my new address when I move.

Spirit_2

Why disclose tht you have a shotgun to your LL? Surely that is advertising your possession and dilutes the point of a secure hidden firearms cabinet.

tbs624

Paul_the_Painter wrote: »

Of course if the property has a loft, you could store up there, bolt to the rafters, and never even have to make good when you leave.

Yep, because rafters are a brick wall..................

Paul_the_Painter wrote: »

To be honest, although I'm not a LL, I have done a lot of work for them, and someone with a shotgun license would have been police checked, and therefore a LOT less likely to be a dodgy character and damage my property/not pay the rent.

If you think that someone having been police checked gives them a clean bill of health then you are very naive:it's a snapshot at that particular point in time and does not signify that they won't do something "dodgy" in the future. It very definitely has little bearing on whether they will pay the rent.