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Just had phone call from Graham White Solicitors!
JRinManchester
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Just had an rather unpleasant phone call from Graham White Solicitors, demanding that I pay my 'outstanding parking fine'.
Months ago when I first received the PCN from Excel parking I wrote to them say that I was not going to pay the 'fine' and gave my reasons.
They, of course rejected what they called my 'appeal' and wrote to say that they would not respond to any further communication from me. It was only then I discovered the huge amount of information on this forum and others, and dutifully followed the advice to ignore all the various letters that have arrived at regular intervals.
I've had the threat of intended legal action and, recently a further threat of legal action, and now I've had the phone call from a rather unpleasant man from Graham White Solicitors essentially saying 'see you in court'.
Any idea what happens now...and any advice on what I should do now?
Months ago when I first received the PCN from Excel parking I wrote to them say that I was not going to pay the 'fine' and gave my reasons.
They, of course rejected what they called my 'appeal' and wrote to say that they would not respond to any further communication from me. It was only then I discovered the huge amount of information on this forum and others, and dutifully followed the advice to ignore all the various letters that have arrived at regular intervals.
I've had the threat of intended legal action and, recently a further threat of legal action, and now I've had the phone call from a rather unpleasant man from Graham White Solicitors essentially saying 'see you in court'.
Any idea what happens now...and any advice on what I should do now?
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you ignore them again
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You didn't get a call from Graham White - you got a call from Roxburghe Debt Collectors passing themselves off as Graham White. See this pepipoo forums thread for an insight into how Roxburghe work and pretend to be Graham White Solicitors (GW):
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=52809
There's some fun to be had here - of course you don't panic or pay up because they don't do Court (they just do threats).
If they ring again you could:
- say 'hmmmm...so you say you're Graham White Solicitors? But in fact you are really a Roxburghe staff member in the guise of 'GW' today aren't you? You think you can pass yourselves off as solicitors and that might make me pay a non-existent debt? Good luck with that!' and put the phone down or listen to them splutter!
- or say 'I'll just go and get him' and then just leave the phone hanging for an hour.
- or do the above but leave the phone hanging in earshot of loud, annoying musak.
- or put the phone down.
- or say 'three words - 'Money Saving expert' and then put the phone down.
- or say 'one word - 'Watchdog' then put the phone down (watch this Watchdog link first):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA
Once you understand, as we all do, that private parking tickets are an unenforceable scam, you can deal with those phone calls in whatever way takes your fancy really.
You don't have to talk to a debt collector, in fact if it's tiresome you can certainly report them for harassment (which is a criminal offence - most PPC debt collectors certainly do 'harass'). Link:
http://www.nationaldebtline.co.uk/england_wales/factsheet.php?page=03_harassment
Don't forget the fact this is not a debt, you owe nothing and will NOT be taken to Court. Most of us have ignored at least one PPC ticket, me included. Nothing happens, no CCJ, no Court, no effect on your credit rating. They give up!PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of this/any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD0 -
These forums and the information posted are invaluable.
So far, I've followed the advice of ignoring the letters which were correctly predicted to arrive. This morning I've received the Graham White letter - notice of intended legal action - and will be sticking it on the pile of the other ignored letters So, although my situation has not yet been resolved (I've 14 days to wait), I would like to say THANK YOU to everybody who has posted advice.0 -
I am so jealous, OP!0
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If they ever phone you again just give them really random answers.
Or even better respond to every question they ask you with "who is this?"
They'll soon get bored. And remember, they are paying for the call not you.0 -
GW: is that Mr XXXX
No this is Mr S.P.A.M. Filtre and this call is being recorded as evidence in your forthcoming court case for the criminal offence of harrasment.
Result: click then silence will be the likely outcome, as they hang up.0 -
Emmsywemmsy wrote: »These forums and the information posted are invaluable.
So far, I've followed the advice of ignoring the letters which were correctly predicted to arrive. This morning I've received the Graham White letter - notice of intended legal action - and will be sticking it on the pile of the other ignored letters So, although my situation has not yet been resolved (I've 14 days to wait), I would like to say THANK YOU to everybody who has posted advice.
12 Nov 2010 I would like to add this site has been invaluable. And a huge thank you to everyone who has contributed also. I too have now received my Notice of Intended Legal Action from Graham White Solicitors in the sum of £207.25 including huge Solicitors costs and warrant issuing fees resulting from an unpaid illegal parking ticket issued in March this year. I am just wondering how many more threatening letters and course of actions I can expect from them. Many thanks to all. Kind Regards
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Marina_Baker wrote: »12 Nov 2010 I would like to add this site has been invaluable. And a huge thank you to everyone who has contributed also. I too have now received my Notice of Intended Legal Action from Graham White Solicitors in the sum of £207.25 including huge Solicitors costs and warrant issuing fees resulting from an unpaid illegal parking ticket issued in March this year. I am just wondering how many more threatening letters and course of actions I can expect from them. Many thanks to all. Kind Regards
Marina
Here's a link to all posts on this board which you may not have realised is full of threads like this about PPC fake tickets & threatograms. All posters on here are ignoring this scam:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163
Look closely at the info in the first post in the sticky thread (2nd from top as I see it now) 'PPC letters & scams, what to expect'. You'll see pics of the letter-chain, that should help!PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of this/any page where it says:
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shortchanged wrote: »If they ever phone you again just give them really random answers.
Or even better respond to every question they ask you with "who is this?"
They'll soon get bored. And remember, they are paying for the call not you.
Like answer the question with a random answer for the last question the ask...0 -
If they phone up, just say "I will just go and get him/her" and put the phone down and continue what you were doing pre phone-call.
Or if you have a nearby radio, place phone next to radio0
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