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Council houses for fixed terms only!

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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Of course, those with a mortgage prior to April 2000 benefited from taxpayer handouts (often in the £ thousands) in the form of MIRAS.
    I think MIRAS went long before 1990.
  • yellowmonkey
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    ILW wrote: »
    So you get a discounted rent for years, and then bunged 20 or 30 grand when you want to buy. Very nice if you are one of the lucky ones offered such largesse at taxpayer expense.
    ILW wrote: »
    The difference is that they BOUGHT, ie spent their own money as opposed to just having thousands of pounds of taxpayers money just given to them. Big difference.

    And if you are a Taxpayer and a Council tenant ??
  • ILW wrote: »
    I think MIRAS went long before 1990.

    It ended in April 2000
  • ILW wrote: »
    Thats the trouble with social tenants. They are irresponsible.

    It could be viewed as a supreme level of responsibility not to play a part in fuelling the house price inflation we are currently enduring.
  • And if you are a Taxpayer and a Council tenant ??

    Oh no. It doesn't work that way. Social tenants are regarded as a sub-human breed, incapable of ever paying any tax. They should recieve the crumbs from the landowners table and be grateful for it. And, of course, when the landowners have gambled away their wealth, the ever prudent social tenant should be the first with his hand in his pocket to prop up the crumbling corruption that the landowner has created.
  • yellowmonkey
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    Oh no. It doesn't work that way. Social tenants are regarded as a sub-human breed, incapable of ever paying any tax. They should recieve the crumbs from the landowners table and be grateful for it. And, of course, when the landowners have gambled away their wealth, the ever prudent social tenant should be the first with his hand in his pocket to prop up the crumbling corruption that the landowner has created.

    Spoken like a true Serf :)
  • LydiaJ
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    Many people are saying that it would be good for private tenants to have better security of tenure, and I can see their point. I rent privately, but I'm one of the lucky ones - my home is owned by a family trust who aren't likely to want to sell any time soon, and they value me as a long term tenant, so I've nothing to worry about. (I've been here 5 years.) My previous LLs needed to live in their house themselves sooner than expected, and had to give us notice to leave after only 7 months, though, so I do understand the problem.

    However, almost nobody seems to have mentioned that one of the advantages of renting is its flexibility. If your employment is uncertain, or if your employer has seconded you to a different office for 6 months or a couple of years, then short term rentals are ideal, especially if they move onto periodic after the first six months. They're also useful if you want to settle into a new town for a while before deciding which area would be the best place to buy, or if selling and buying simultaneously proves too difficult in the current almost static house buying market. I've recently received a lot of money from life insurance, and am looking to buy, so the fact that I only have to give a month's notice is a huge bonus for me.

    Various people have referred to the better security enjoyed by tenants in various countries in Europe. They've mentioned the increased responsibilities that tenants have for maintaining the property, but I'd like to know more about the arrangements for giving notice and leaving a rented property under systems like that. Can anyone tell us about that, please?
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  • LydiaJ wrote: »
    Many people are saying that it would be good for private tenants to have better security of tenure, and I can see their point. I rent privately, but I'm one of the lucky ones - my home is owned by a family trust who aren't likely to want to sell any time soon, and they value me as a long term tenant, so I've nothing to worry about. (I've been here 5 years.) My previous LLs needed to live in their house themselves sooner than expected, and had to give us notice to leave after only 7 months, though, so I do understand the problem.

    However, almost nobody seems to have mentioned that one of the advantages of renting is its flexibility. If your employment is uncertain, or if your employer has seconded you to a different office for 6 months or a couple of years, then short term rentals are ideal, especially if they move onto periodic after the first six months. They're also useful if you want to settle into a new town for a while before deciding which area would be the best place to buy, or if selling and buying simultaneously proves too difficult in the current almost static house buying market. I've recently received a lot of money from life insurance, and am looking to buy, so the fact that I only have to give a month's notice is a huge bonus for me.

    Various people have referred to the better security enjoyed by tenants in various countries in Europe. They've mentioned the increased responsibilities that tenants have for maintaining the property, but I'd like to know more about the arrangements for giving notice and leaving a rented property under systems like that. Can anyone tell us about that, please?

    Even within the current legislation, the LL and tenant have different minimum notice lengths, so I see no reasom why the security of the tenant couldn't be improved while maintaining their current notice requirements. There is no reason why the current minimum tenancy duration couldn't be extended for the LL only. In fact, the simplest method would be to get rid of the S21 notice. Pay your rent, behave like a tenant and you can stay as long as you like. But if you want to leave after the first 6 months, you must give 1 months notice. Just a thought.
  • LydiaJ wrote: »

    Various people have referred to the better security enjoyed by tenants in various countries in Europe. They've mentioned the increased responsibilities that tenants have for maintaining the property, but I'd like to know more about the arrangements for giving notice and leaving a rented property under systems like that. Can anyone tell us about that, please?

    One example I'm aware of, from a German mate. Usually, in German rentals, a kitchen isn't included. tenant supplies his own!

    In fact what happens is that previous tenant sells in-place kitchen to subsequent tenant.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • concerned43
    concerned43 Posts: 1,316 Forumite
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    Well for all of you who think Social Housing is a bargain - tell me how much rent you would pay for this per month?
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    Welcome to my home!! not very attractive is it? and who do you think has to sort mess out? ME!! and I have to pay rent while doing so! This I'm afraid is Council Housing - you guys still think renting in the social sector is something to be jealous of now?
    Lastly - where would be the incentive to renovate this property if I had to hand the house back after 5 years?
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