A question about milk production ...

impster

Ken-Dodds-Hairy-Knodule wrote:

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The only propoganda capmaign is coming from the Birtish Dairy Association, Assured British Meat and their cohorts.

Guffaw indeed. If it's propoganda you want to see - look at any of half a dozen anti-farming organisations websites i could mention. Now show me the pro-farming propoganda that's as outlandish as the anti-farming type.

Photos can be set-up. Videos can be edited to form any argument. Testimonials are 'authored'.

Farming is for the most part a perfectly legitimate industry. Unfortunately like in any other part of life there are bad examples who give everyone a bad name.

Let's not turn this into an argument shall we.

There seem to be 2 distinct opinions on this thread as well as those wanting to form their own opinion.

I think that by know those on the fence will have enough information to be able to form their own opinion.

savvy

impster wrote:

Nos sure where you get the idea that I'm trying to insult you personally. My opinions here are for the benefit of all who read or who choose to read. This is not a personal message to any particular individual.

I'm just giving my opinion that often inacurate facts and 'horror' stories are used to form the basis of incorrect opinions.

If you are offended by this then I apologise - but we're all entitled to an opinion. Incidentally, why would I want to insult anybody. I have tried to give a fair and balanced opinion that is based on the facts available.

If you choose to eat or live your life in any particular way, that's your choice. All I'm saying is that I believe that if people want to base those decisions on facts, then they should ensure that the facts they have are accurate, and not part of a growing propoganda campaign that is spreading against farming as an industry.

I am not, contrary to what anyone may think, trying to offend or insult anyone. I have merely decided to add my opinions to this open discussion.

Thank you.

Impster

Well that's strange as I was doing as you have decided you were doing, but from a different view point which is also allowed..................only I didn't do it by being offensive, may I remind you of your chosen words "Ignoramuses who scream out", I could say the same of you from the way you have posted...................but I have more manners!

impster

savvy wrote:

Well that's strange as I was doing as you have decided you were doing, but from a different view point which is also allowed..................only I didn't do it by being offensive, may I remind you of your chosen words "Ignoramuses who scream out", I could say the same of you from the way you have posted...................but I have more manners!

Yes my chosen words 'ignoramuses who scream out' are aimed at those people who are ignorant of the true facts yet still decide to publicise (or make people aware of) things based on their incomplete 'truths'.

If you feel that you fit into this category, then maybe yes, It was aimed at people like yourself - however, maybe the point to take then is that both sides of any argument should know the whole truths.

Not personally directed at you. Unless of course, you choose to be in that category. Let's not turn this into a 'one-up' slagging match which will get people knowhere.

tiredwithtwins

lol ... so the consensus of opinion is??

6 of one, half a dozen of the other ... ??

thanks to everyone who posted ... it was informative, if a little ...erm....hotly debated!

Moggles_2

Originally Posted by tr3mor
This may be true, but Tesco are making a mockery of the whole organic system simply by selling organic beef that's been shipped from Argentina!
The fact that they stock it must mean that it sells, but who would buy beef shipped from Argentina regardless of its organic status?

The British public have been consuming nonorganic beef imported from Argentina & Uruguay for decades! Perhaps you're too young to remember Fray Bentos meat pies.

I'm all for using the least chemicals in our food, but I'm all for buying local too.

I couldn't agree more. The UK organic food market grew 30% last year - that's one heck of a jump in one year - and the encouraging thing is that two-thirds of that increase was home-grown!

IMO, we shouldn't underestimate consumer power. If we vote with our wallets, we can eat organic and reduce food miles. What could be greener or more ethical than that?

savvy

tiredwithtwins wrote:

lol ... so the consensus of opinion is??

6 of one, half a dozen of the other ... ??

thanks to everyone who posted ... it was informative, if a little ...erm....hotly debated!

As with most things, guess it's down to personal taste and what you believe in, be it researched studies, propoganda or media reports. Personally I tend to err on the side of researched studies and form my opinion from that.

I'm sorry your thread bordered on a 'slagging match', that was not my intention when I personally posted.

tiredwithtwins

savvy wrote:

As with most things, guess it's down to personal taste and what you believe in, be it researched studies, propoganda or media reports. Personally I tend to err on the side of researched studies and form my opinion from that.

I'm sorry your thread bordered on a 'slagging match', that was not my intention when I personally posted.

thats ok:D
Id like to be able to decide by researched studies ... but its knowing where to look for a balanced view thats the problem.

thanks:D