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Tenants rights when ending a lease

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  • adg1
    adg1 Posts: 670 Forumite
    Why, oh WHY do people have to go straight for the jugular? What happened to being nice, treating people as you would want to be treated?!

    OP - If the LL asks nicely (or his letting agent) and it is convenient for you let them view the house. You can refuse access, but do offer an alternative to them to rebook at your convenience.
    sequence wrote: »
    you get absolute control over whether anyone views or not, regardless of what any contract says. You can try an make some compromise and allowing viewings, or just point blank refuse them. Depends whether you like your landlord or not.....

    Why is it that people have this world against me attitude? What if it was your house Sequence? Would you like your tenant to refuse to allow anyone in to view? Say they leave and you've had no viewings and then it takes you a month to get a new tenant in?
  • sequence
    sequence Posts: 1,877 Forumite
    That's part of the business, if you don't like it, don't let your house out. Very simple!

    I don't have this "world against me" attitude. The OP asked about his rights, I duly advised. If you bother to read my post, it says : "You can try an make some compromise and allowing viewings, or just point blank refuse them. Depends whether you like your landlord or not....."

    So, it's quite simple, if your landlord has been an **** [insert favourite expletive here] then don't allow viewings, otherwise, you can find some compromise. Hope that clarifies things for you, and, p.s, you're not clutton in disguise are you ? :rotfl:
  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    edited 28 July 2010 at 2:03PM
    adg1 wrote: »
    Why, oh WHY do people have to go straight for the jugular? What happened to being nice, treating people as you would want to be treated?!

    That's what posters were saying; if the landlord has been a good landlord, then it would be nice if the T returned the compliment and were nice back to the L (by allowing viewings at set times).
    adg1 wrote: »
    What if it was your house Sequence? Would you like your tenant to refuse to allow anyone in to view? Say they leave and you've had no viewings and then it takes you a month to get a new tenant in?

    I would think "I must be a better landlord to my next tenant so that I don't get a void again".
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • RobertoMoir
    RobertoMoir Posts: 3,458 Forumite
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    adg1 wrote: »
    Why, oh WHY do people have to go straight for the jugular? What happened to being nice, treating people as you would want to be treated?!

    The only person I see going for the jugular here is you.

    The Tenant asked for their rights, and was advised of them. No one tried to tell them that they ought to aggressively insist on exercising their rights to the letter, just what their rights were.

    OP - If the LL asks nicely (or his letting agent) and it is convenient for you let them view the house. You can refuse access, but do offer an alternative to them to rebook at your convenience.

    Absolutely agree that they ought to - but they don't have to. As I've said in threads here before, a fair arrangement comes from both sides being aware of their own and the other person's obligations and needs. Now that the tenant/OP is aware that they cannot be forced to accept viewings against their will, it will now be easier for them to talk to their Landlord and work out something that is a good solution for both sides.
    Why is it that people have this world against me attitude?

    You tell us. You're the one whose post is leaping around like the written equivalent of a scalded cat.
    What if it was your house Sequence? Would you like your tenant to refuse to allow anyone in to view? Say they leave and you've had no viewings and then it takes you a month to get a new tenant in?

    In that case the LL should ask themselves why the tenant was unwilling to work with them to sort something out. Sometimes the answer to that will be "The tenant was a a jerk" and if you can't stand that happening ever then don't be a LL just the same as if you think you'd be utterly unable to deal with unreasonable customers then don't start your own restaurant.

    Sometimes, however, the answer will be that the tenant has perfectly valid reasons for wanting their privacy to be respected to the utmost, and sometimes the answer might be "the LL was a jerk and tried to force the tenant so the tenant dug their heels in".

    It takes all sorts to make the world.
    If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything
  • adg1
    adg1 Posts: 670 Forumite
    The only person I see going for the jugular here is you.

    Not at all. 'You have been SCAMMED' is quite inflammatory. Not scammed just, correctly, offered their notice.
    The Tenant asked for their rights, and was advised of them. No one tried to tell them that they ought to aggressively insist on exercising their rights to the letter, just what their rights were.

    Indeed they are the tenants rights, but there are two sides to this.
    Absolutely agree that they ought to - but they don't have to. As I've said in threads here before, a fair arrangement comes from both sides being aware of their own and the other person's obligations and needs.

    I agree.

    There always seems to be, whenever someone posts a thread about viewings, a host of immediate answers advising tenants to refuse access, quote quiet enjoyment and to change lock barrels (ok not this thread granted). All I was saying was that a two sided approach to advice is normally best, as you your self state in your post.
    You tell us. You're the one whose post is leaping around like the written equivalent of a scalded cat.

    Not a scalded cat. Its just that posts seem so one sided about this topic.
    In that case the LL should ask themselves why the tenant was unwilling to work with them to sort something out. Sometimes the answer to that will be "The tenant was a a jerk" and if you can't stand that happening ever then don't be a LL just the same as if you think you'd be utterly unable to deal with unreasonable customers then don't start your own restaurant.

    Sometimes, however, the answer will be that the tenant has perfectly valid reasons for wanting their privacy to be respected to the utmost, and sometimes the answer might be "the LL was a jerk and tried to force the tenant so the tenant dug their heels in".

    No arguements there. Thats pretty much the same as 'be nice' and 'treat as you want to be treated'
  • sequence
    sequence Posts: 1,877 Forumite
    The tenant doesn't need to give any notice to end the lease, hence the you've been scammed statement.....
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    Personally, I wouldn't allow potential new tenants in my home over a 2 month notice period. Until I stop paying rent in the place, I live in it. It's my home. And I don't want the world and his wife traipsing through.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • adg1 wrote: »
    Why, oh WHY do people have to go straight for the jugular? What happened to being nice, treating people as you would want to be treated?!

    OP - If the LL asks nicely (or his letting agent) and it is convenient for you let them view the house. You can refuse access, but do offer an alternative to them to rebook at your convenience.



    Why is it that people have this world against me attitude? What if it was your house Sequence? Would you like your tenant to refuse to allow anyone in to view? Say they leave and you've had no viewings and then it takes you a month to get a new tenant in?

    It might be the LL house, but it's the tenant HOME.

    The last time I moved out of a rented place, the LL never bothered me at all with viewings. My LL clearly knew there would boxes and dis-assembled furniture (it was unfurnished) all over the place.

    It's reasonable for a LL to request viewings, however it's also reasonable for the tenant to have the clutter associated with moving home lying around, so the LL might not get the results they want.
    "One thing that is different, and has changed here, is the self-absorption, not just greed. Everybody is in a hurry now and there is a 'the rules don't apply to me' sort of thing." - Bill Bryson
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    sequence wrote: »
    The tenant doesn't need to give any notice to end the lease, hence the you've been scammed statement.....
    Sequence, you need to wait until the OP gives all the relevant info before jumping in on what you think is the case on their specific notice periods.

    Look back and you'll see that the OP *did* have to give 2 months notice, because he is exercising his right to leave before the end of the Fixed Term by using the tenancy agreement's break clause.

    No "scam" there - either T or LL can invoke the clause.
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