Cuts Kill off British Film

tincans

A._Badger wrote: »

Are you seriously trying to pretend that output of the state subsidised performing arts sector is not absolutely and overwhelmingly of the liberal/left?

You haven't actually seem any of these films have you ?

For every Mike Leigh there is a vehicle starring Danny Dyer or some wannabe gangster which even the most fervant "reds under the bed" seeker, would struggle to pigeon hole as liberal / leftist.

If you went to see Shakespeare at any of the RSC venues, most would stick faithfully to the text and interpretation (dangerously liberal for the 16th Century, I grant).

Likewise the London Ballet & Opera companies.

Theatre & the Arts should open peoples minds - yours appears to have been nailed shut a long time ago.

tincans

StevieJ wrote: »

Interesting that the most popular soaps in the UK are British made

What ?

Including the state subsidised Eastenders ?

FTBFun

tincans wrote: »

For every Mike Leigh there is a vehicle starring Danny Dyer or some wannabe gangster which even the most fervant "reds under the bed" seeker, would struggle to pigeon hole as liberal / leftist.

C'mon - everyone knows The Football Factory was in fact a re-imagining of The Battleship Potemkin.

Conrad

Mind you, we have the best director - Ridley Scot.
Are his films British?

The kindom of God about the crusades is an awesome film as is Alien of course and Black Hawk Down.

Kes is just dire stereo typcial mashed potatoe made by remote rich people without a clue.
These art films always get it wrong. I grew up for part of my childhood on a council estate and people are nothing like these liberal fantasy heroes. As an example in the real world my council mates used to have 3 night video game sessions fulelled with horse tranqs and codine and morphine and the black kids called each other the n word and worshiped dem dolla bill dem ganstas and dat 5.0 and gals are merely there to be taken at will - dont see Loach and co getting any of this.

tincans

Conrad wrote: »

Kes is just dire stereo typcial mashed potatoe made by remote rich people without a clue.These art films always get it wrong. I grew up for part of my childhood on a council estate and people are nothing like these liberal fantasy heroes. As an example in the real world my council mates used to have 3 night video game sessions fulelled with horse tranqs and codine and morphine and the black kids called each other the n word and worshiped dem dolla bill dem ganstas and dat 5.0 and gals are merely there to be taken at will - dont see Loach and co getting any of this.

I wonder if you have actually watched Kes.
If you have, you are probably way too young to actually have much of a clue whether its depiction of a Yorkshire mining town in the mid-late 60's is real or not.

StevieJ

Conrad wrote: »

Mind you, we have the best director - Ridley Scot.
Are his films British?

The kindom of God about the crusades is an awesome film as is Alien of course and Black Hawk Down.

Kes is just dire stereo typcial mashed potatoe made by remote rich people without a clue.
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Obviously one or two a bit older as well

I would imagine that the current generation (11-18 year olds) who know their 'rights' rather than their 'wrongs' would not be able to imagine let alone live a day in the life of anyone like Billy Casper but it went on as many a Barnsley person old enough to remember will.

I used to work with a guy who said that Bob Bowes who played Mr Gryce was actually a teacher/headteacher at a school in Barnsley that he attended and he was unfortunate to have received the cane from him - Suffice to say he did mention that his character in the film wasn't a million miles away to his character in real life ;o)

Seems like there are one or two here that enjoyed Kes.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064541/

Mr_Mumble

Classic Daily Mash:
DANNY DYER, SAYS CULTURE SECRETARY

Noticeably its only the real lefties such as Putnam and Leigh who're whining along with those losing their jobs. Even the BBC and Guardian have dug up independent filmmakers such as Alex Cox and Chris Atkins who're very happy at this culling.

Conrad wrote: »

Mind you, we have the best director - Ridley Scot.

Wot! Better than Christopher Nolan?
(I prefer Scott's films but there is a heck of a lot of British talent doing very well in film, in-front and behind the scenes, both critically acclaimed and commercially viable).

JonnyBravo

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Other British films I do not like

• Any other gangster film not featuring Guy Ritchie

Harry Brown?

Errata

Nobody mentioned Sex Lives of the Potato Men, funded by the Film Council ?

Lance

I've not seen Kes for years but remember it was very good in it's day. I get sick of the 'Lock Stock' gangster ripoffs with young Brit well spoken actors talking like an 18 cert Eastenders. I thought Harry Brown was too much like a soap with the Police letting the yobs rule until an O.A.P wipes them out. I thought Handmade Films were a good Brit company who went bust as the films got more forgetable and arty.