Wrong tax code BR for whole year

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The link I posted above
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/Taxes/WorkingAndPayingTax/DG_10013512

states that Part 1 of the P45 should be sent by the employer who issues the P45 to HMRC.
Parts 2 and 3 would be given to the new employer or if you were not working again sent with the P50 when making a tax reclaim.

As adolphin 10 states it is the reponsibility of the employers to send the relevant parts of the P45 to HMRC.
This can be seen from the notes on the P45 itself.
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/forms/p45.pdf

Lokolo

chrisbur wrote: »

The only time you would use a P50 is if you are no longer in employment and are also not signing on as unemployed. Then you would send Parts 2 and 3 of the P45 to the tax office with the P50 as under these circumstances there is no new employer for you to give it to. In this case though there was a new employer so a P50 could not be used.

Yep I understand that, but wouldn't the OP need to send Part 2 and 3 off when he gets a P45 from old employer with a P60 from the new employer? Just the same as a P50 refund?

I don't get why he doesn't need to send a P45 Parts 2 and 3 because its done my computers, because, if this was the case, why do I need to send it off with a P50? Surely I don't need to as HMRC already know with their computerised system. I just need to send a letter saying "I am owed tax, please give me the money as I am no longer working".

System

Lokolo wrote: »

P45 goes on this route: Previous Employer -> You -> HMRC -> You

This is the part of your post which is wrong.


The OP would only be asked to supply the P45 parts 2 and 3 if he wasn't going to start further employment or claim a taxable benefit in that tax year. They would submit it with the P50 form as it is specifically for an in year tax refund claim. They are asked to submit those parts in case they get the refund and then attempt to use the P45 during that same tax year. Using it would generate a further refund via the new employer that they wouldn't necessarily be entitled to.

If HMRC are telling the OP that they never received P45 details for the employment which ended in March 2009 then it is quite normal and quicker for them to ask the OP for their P45 part 1A. If the OP tells them that they didn't receive one they would then be asked to get a statement of earnings from the previous employer. If that was unsuccessful HMRC would then contact the employer themselves.

Lokolo

Pam17 wrote: »

This is the part of your post which is wrong.


The OP would only be asked to supply the P45 parts 2 and 3 if he wasn't going to start further employment or claim a taxable benefit in that tax year. They would submit it with the P50 form as it is specifically for an in year tax refund claim. They are asked to submit those parts in case they get the refund and then attempt to use the P45 during that same tax year. Using it would generate a further refund via the new employer that they wouldn't necessarily be entitled to.

If HMRC are telling the OP that they never received P45 details for the employment which ended in March 2009 then it is quite normal and quicker for them to ask the OP for their P45 part 1A. If the OP tells them that they didn't receive one they would then be asked to get a statement of earnings from the previous employer. If that was unsuccessful HMRC would then contact the employer themselves.

So you only give P45 if you have stopped working. And if you are continuing to work, normally you would give in P45, but in this case a P46 was filled in and he was put on BR, so to get any refund he doesn't need to send any P45 to HMRC if he eventually gets one, as HMRC would also get the same info?

System

Lokolo wrote: »

So you only give P45 if you have stopped working. And if you are continuing to work, normally you would give in P45, but in this case a P46 was filled in and he was put on BR, so to get any refund he doesn't need to send any P45 to HMRC if he eventually gets one, as HMRC would also get the same info?

To get a refund for 09/10 the P60 from the new employment will suffice. But if there are no pay and tax details for 08/09 because of non receipt of P45 details then HMRC will be reluctant to refund 09/10 in case there is tax owed for 08/09. 08/09 has to be reconciled before they will touch 09/10.
Asking the OP to provide the P45 part 1A (if they have it) is quicker because they want the refund. Having to correspond with employers is slower as they would not necessarily be in any hurry to provide the information.