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Brother paying £30 p.m charges using o.draft with Halifax?

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  • Consumerist
    Consumerist Posts: 6,311 Forumite
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    edited 27 July 2010 at 12:01PM
    My only advice to buel, based on my own experience with family, would be to treat the "lent" money as gift with repayment being a nice to have.

    It is important to distinguish between a determined attempt by your brother to address his problems and a determined attempt by you to force him to address his problems. The latter is likely to lead to family squabbles over money.

    In the hope that the former case applies here, you might want to start the ball rolling by thinking about the advice on the MSE Debt Problems page and then during the process you can get advice and encouragement (very important) from the Debt-free Wannabe forum.
    >:)Warning: In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
  • iereboy
    iereboy Posts: 415 Forumite
    Again pooh on the gf. She should know better if she works for the Halifax. Surely the gf should be also trying to help him out with the mess. Is she?

    He needs to live within his means. Again educate him on budgeting and using internet to manage his accounts.

    The golden rule in his case : Earn more / spend less (Easier said than done I know)

    Get him to sell unwanted items on ebay, do extra shifts at work to get the debt down. Do not spend any more on the card.

    Get him to show you the CC bill and you can see the interest rates. Call him, speak to him, address the issue ASAP.

    He has to live within his means. Again, if you have credit its not clever to wrack up spending just because you can.

    Somehow I doubt the girl friend is solely to blame - it takes two tango.

    Good luck!
  • buel
    buel Posts: 674 Forumite
    Thank you two, thank you Consumerist, that's what im trying to do+silly comments like jambosans's dont help me at all!
    To Iereboy, you are totally totally correct, it is 90% his fault, my gripe with his gf is that she is very 'pro' Halifax, so much so that when my own gf went into her branch of Halifax to open a reward account(so i can put the £1000 in per month to get the £5, as i do with my own and my mum's) my brother's gf hassled her about house insurance + my gf had to refuse her 4 times before she would stop! Plus, she persuaded my 62yr old mum to get a Halifax credit card when she doesn't need one!
    Not yet a total moneysaving expert...but im trying!!
  • Consumerist
    Consumerist Posts: 6,311 Forumite
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    buel wrote: »
    . . . so that when my own gf went into her branch . . .

    Oops ! Sorry about the implied sex change above - now corrected.
    >:)Warning: In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
  • iereboy
    iereboy Posts: 415 Forumite
    edited 27 July 2010 at 1:43PM
    buel wrote: »
    Thank you two, thank you Consumerist,that's what im trying to do+silly comments like jambosans's dont help me at all!
    To Iereboy, you are totally totally correct, it is 90% his fault, my gripe with his gf is that she is very 'pro' Halifax, so much so that when my own gf went into her branch of Halifax to open a reward account(so i can put the £1000 in per month to get the £5, as i do with my own and my mum's) my brother's gf hassled her about house insurance + my gf had to refuse her 4 times before she would stop! Plus, she persuaded my 62yr old mum to get a Halifax credit card when she doesn't need one!

    Jambosans is a realist - he means well.

    If you wana thank someone, click the button. :)

    Again pooh on the gf (3rd time). She seems very persuasive. Surely, if she's "family" she can take a hint, if you all truly don't want something.

    Is all this problems down to just one silly little girl? Surely you all can tell her to get f ed!

    If you're a true money saver, take the free products, split her commission with her. She hits her sales target, you get some dosh. Don't ask me where I learnt that from! :o
  • sunfleur
    sunfleur Posts: 120 Forumite
    It sounds like the gf that works in the bank is all about herself as well since she will be getting some sort of incentive for everyone she signs up to these things.
    LBM: June 2010 DMP started: 1/8/2010
    DFW LHS 245 - DMP MST 391

    Moving forward and onward - don't want to stand still or go backwards!
  • opinions4u
    opinions4u Posts: 19,411 Forumite
    sunfleur wrote: »
    It sounds like the gf that works in the bank is all about herself as well since she will be getting some sort of incentive for everyone she signs up to these things.
    Or perhaps she needs the sales to stop an aggressive sales manager from making her life a misery?

    It can be a fine line.

    We don't know if she's being over-enthusiastic in her pursuit of sales (for personal gain) or is being threatened with the bullet for being behind target.
    Again pooh on the gf (3rd time).
    I thought that sort of thing was appropriate for a different type of forum. ;)
  • jambosans
    jambosans Posts: 1,493 Forumite
    edited 27 July 2010 at 2:41PM
    If you've got nothing constructive to add to the discussion then surely it would be better to conceal your spiteful nature by saying nothing.

    You're right, it wasn't constructive in terms of tackling the debt, but the implication that the brother's girlfriend is in anyway responsible for the OP's brother building up a debt is deflecting blame.

    Perhaps (and we can only surmise), the girlfriend convinced her other half to take out a credit card in order to gain a sale, but she's hardly responsible for the subsequent spending spree. I think it is constructive to highlight that the OP's brother may have a debt problem, and blaming other people certainly won't resolve the issue.

    I know we don't always see "eye to eye" Consumerist, but don't confuse a little harmless sarcasm employed to make a point with being spiteful for the sake of it. I'm very well aware you don't like my tone/ mannerisms, and despite the OP brushing it off as a "silly comment", I don't need you to police my comments. If you have an issue, report it to the mods, and if they feel it's in breach of Forum Rules they will remove it. Otherwise we're always going to get into these pointless exchanges.
    Anything I post is my opinion, so from time to time I may be wrong. I try to provide answers based in fact, however I don't know everything, so (like all posters on MSE), take what I say with a pinch of salt.
  • Inactive
    Inactive Posts: 14,509 Forumite
    jambosans wrote: »
    Did she also hold a gun to his head and force him to spend £2000 on the card?

    Well said, I agree 100%.;)
  • Consumerist
    Consumerist Posts: 6,311 Forumite
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    edited 27 July 2010 at 4:17PM
    jambosans wrote: »
    Otherwise we're always going to get into these pointless exchanges.

    These exchanges are not pointless at all. They expose you for what you are.

    I shall continue with them, anyway. If you think they are pointless then feel free to ignore them. You do have an ignore button.

    Edit
    buel wrote: »
    . . .silly comments like jambosans's dont help me at all!

    So your comments aren't exactly "harmless" are they ?
    >:)Warning: In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
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