disabled and parents parking

unholyangel

trisontana wrote: »

How many more times does this need repeating. The blue badge scheme is not applicable in private car-parks, and to limit disabled spaces to blue badge holders is a breach of the DDA.

Cant find one on google images so i'll try and remember to take one of the rules at our local next time i'm there.

I've yet to meet a person who does not have full mobility and who would be considered disabled who doesnt have a blue badge.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/49968232@N00/3023932051

Or are you going to tell me that someone who is deaf would need a disabled parking space?

atomicsheep

LilacPixie wrote: »

Atomic - what do you drive that you cannot squeeze it into a regular asda spot??


I had to fight tooth and nail for my blue badge, maybe its an age thing. Old and there you go, young and you obviously don't need it.

i drive a normal family car.. the smaller 2 door cars however may need the same space as me because although the car may be slimmer, the doors on a 2door car are usually longer/wider

sock-knitter

unholyangel wrote: »

Cant find one on google images so i'll try and remember to take one of the rules at our local next time i'm there.

I've yet to meet a disabled person who doesnt have a blue badge.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/49968232@N00/3023932051

Or are you going to tell me that someone who is deaf would need a disabled parking space?

i'm disabled as are my two children, none of us has a blue badge, as we can walk, but as my children have learning disabilities and no road sence, then i would park in parent and child places, so if you see someone with 6 foot tall teenages parker in mother and child space it may be me, so please wave and say hi

atomicsheep

lucylucky wrote: »

As their rules are unenforceable (in most cases) I wonder why they bother?

And why they then pay money to have PPC scum terrorise people?

Seems odd to me.

PPC - hmm think i paid a fine to them once.......Gues what it was for??? ........................ parking in a disabled bay! lolololz

ahhh. well i should have ignored the fine (invoice), shame i didnt create this thread before that happened eh?

unholyangel

sock-knitter wrote: »

i'm disabled as are my two children, none of us has a blue badge, as we can walk, but as my children have learning disabilities and no road sence, then i would park in parent and child places, so if you see someone with 6 foot tall teenages parker in mother and child space it may be me, so please wave and say hi

Are you able bodied though?

I dont mind who parks in parent and child spaces. The OP was the one bleating about disabled people using P&C spaces.

I do however, think that disabled spaces should be left for those who need them. "just nipping in for fags" or "getting cash from atm" isnt a valid reason to use a disabled bay imo. Neither is being lazy.

jblack_2

unholyangel wrote: »

Or are you going to tell me that someone who is deaf would need a disabled parking space?

Why not? Are you saying that they should only be used by certain disabled people? Now who's being ignorant?

I suspect that a fair percentage of people who use the disabled spaces would be able to use a normal space if they had to but who's to decide that?

trisontana

unholyangel wrote: »

I've yet to meet a person who does not have full mobility and who would be considered disabled who doesnt have a blue badge.

This from another forum discussing the very same subject:-

there are many that do not have a blue badge for many reasons,
eg, short term disabilty, recent illness / surgery causing disability , awaiting a badge , awaiting / appealing higher rate motability , did not know they could claim , not claiming higher rate DLA and not able to get a badge through the local Council ( if turned down you have to wait 6 months to apply again ) to name a few

And, by the way, that sign you posted is breaching the DDA if it's on private land. Just because people put up signs it doesn't mean they are legal.

unholyangel

That sign i posted is one of many around the country. At least Central Scotland area, there are thousands of them.

And yes, disabled spaces should be for those who are not abled bodied. Just because someone is deaf (for example - not picking on deaf people) does not mean that their ability to walk is affected.

As for who's to decide? Your local authority.

End of the day the DDA is that someone is not discriminated against on grounds of their disability and should be afforded the same access to shops/banks etc that everyone else is. Someone who is abled bodied can hardly claim they are being discriminated against by not being able to park in a disabled bay when they can get in and out of a normal bay. I thought the whole point of the DDA is to make them be treated equally and not special?

lucylucky

unholyangel wrote: »

That sign i posted is one of many around the country. At least Central Scotland area, there are thousands of them.

And yes, disabled spaces should be for those who are not abled bodied. In your opinionJust because someone is deaf (for example - not picking on deaf people) does not mean that their ability to walk is affected.

As for who's to decide? Your local authority.

End of the day the DDA is that someone is not discriminated against on grounds of their disability and should be afforded the same access to shops/banks etc that everyone else is. Someone who is abled bodied can hardly claim they are being discriminated against by not being able to park in a disabled bay when they can get in and out of a normal bay. I thought the whole point of the DDA is to make them be treated equally and not special?

As was pointed out in an earlier post you can be less able for a number of reasons and yet not have badge.

So those people have a moral ground for parking in "disabled" spaces.

Unlike folk who are just too lazy/stupid/inconsiderate/bloodyminded etc

unholyangel

My point is that those who are disabled but abled bodied shouldnt need a disabled parking space as they would have no mobility issues.............