written terms and conditions of employment

terra_ferma

T800 wrote: »

Quite a lofty accussation. Just shows your someone who doesnt really know what they are talking about.

You should be ashamed of yourself for how stupid your accusation that I am 'stealing'.

You also have no idea that my contracted hours is 2hours lunch, simply because that has been the verbal contract. But I came here for advice, not to educate you, so consider yourself blocked as you are simply no use here.

You may not like to hear it but that's the truth....

getmore4less

So I f I have this right, standard contracts the others have gives a 1hr paid lunch break within the normal working hours and this is what you have been given in your particulars, sounds like these would have ben the terms your were employed on.

Looks to me that the custom and practice is that there is a fexable aggreement for longer breaks if work patterns allow subject to management discression.

Swifteaves

T800 wrote: »

If they have allowed me to go for 1hr 45 (sometimes 2hrs) aswell as other colleagues, then it is something that is part of the culture of the organisation, I have been accustomed to doing this for 5 months now and see it as part of my contract. I understand they want it amended, but naturally im not happy for this to happen. I also feel victimised for asserting a statutory right (I asked to receive the terms and conditions and now my contract has been substantially altered to my detriment). Do you think this would be strong enough grounds to claim constructive dismissal?

You should think about the wider implications of claiming constructive dismissal.

This sounds like an easy going place. Maybe everyone's contract has the same terms i.e 1hr for lunch? If you start splitting hairs over something that is cultural rather than contractual you could end up spoiling it for everyone (permanent employees). And you might find your last two month in the role really unpleasant. Just think about it.

Zazen999

T800 wrote: »

Thanks Googlewhacker. My employment is due to end in 2 months time. The main issue is to do with my working hours, I am used to having a 1hr45min lunch break as do other members of staff. This has been unchallenged since I started work, yet the written contract stipulates 1hr lunch break. Naturally this is less generous contract than the verbal one. In addition im unhappy with a clause that says that they can require me to perform any duties skilled or unskilled not within the scope of my normal duties at their discretion, and amend my job description at any time. As it stands I have a set job and would not like them to have the right to interfere and make me do different tasks/whatever they please. Otherwise, the rest of the contract is pretty generic in nature and acceptable. I realise that I dont have to accept the contract but just wondering how to do this formally, Im concerned that even if I resume work it might be inferred that I have unwittingly agreed to the new contract even without signing it.

a - was the statement that you were allowed 1hr 45minutes lunch actually verbal, or just what you experienced when you started the job
b - the duties section, is standard practice; as not every duty to be performed has to be specifically stated in the job description
c - yes, they can change a contract - if they make changes and you continue to work to those changes; you can be held to have accepted them by just turning up to work.


However - I'm gobsmacked that you are still in work to be honest. I'd have thought even a Quango could manage you out by now. If not, perhaps they need some additional training in recruitment and management; as you should never have made it past interview stage and certainly shouldn't have made it past your induction week. Nightmare.