Witholding Exam certificates

bex2002

i beleive it is ther same everywhere - i certainly had the same rules when i was at school, sixth form and university

Optimist

angelatgraceland wrote: »

Maybe-but in a school as opposed to a university-where a child is not able to make a legal contract this cannot apply. And I didnt agree to any such thing either(Im the parent)
My original post was about school. Also-the books were returned today but only one is counted.The other one has no barcode apparantly-they took it back but were in a muddle last year and now we still manage to owe them the book-yet it was returned today. They do not know what the heck they are doing!

Your school situation would come under the 1997 Education Act probably the section relating to discipline

Idiophreak

angelatgraceland wrote: »

No stealing tactics! If you actually read my original post you may understand. My point is NOT about returning the books-they were returned today-it is about the legality of them trying to steal students certificates!
Some people here just do not seem very bright!

I read your post.

You seem to think it's "bullying" for the school to try and get back books which, as far as they're concerned, you have stolen from them.

Like you say, some people aren't very bright.

isplumm

Hi,

I remember a case recently where a student sued the university because they were not going to give her the degree as she owed housing money to them .... she won .... or they took legal advice & realised that they might lose & caved in ...

Mark

angelatgraceland

Idiophreak wrote: »

I read your post.

You seem to think it's "bullying" for the school to try and get back books which, as far as they're concerned, you have stolen from them.

Like you say, some people aren't very bright.

Nope-they have never accused us of stealing them! Lots of kids are late returning books-they never assume they are trying to steal them-they correctly conclude that they have been put away and forgotten.I think somehow that there is a law called the theft act which would cover that.
My original question remains-you have not answered it-is it legal to withold exam certificates which are not their property after all?
maybe threatening would be a better word than bullying: if you dont do this-we will do that.

Freddie_Snowbits

Remember at college, numptie idiot who would not get a pass asked me to return his books. I did in my name and kept mine as well.

Still got my OND.

angelatgraceland wrote: »

that.
My original question remains-you have not answered it-is it legal to withold exam certificates which are not their property after all?
maybe threatening would be a better word than bullying: if you dont do this-we will do that.

Is it right to keep hold of the books and force the school to buy a new copy for next years student?

gregg1

BlueAngelCV wrote: »

What stealing tactics would those be? Returning a couple of books late?
I'm sure the OP just forgot about them. Why would she want to steal old school books?

It was the same at our school and it appears to be most places but I would be interested to know if it was actually legal. I think not.

Saying you can just return the books and get the certificate is not really the point if they are making incorrect and unenforceable threats.

Lets hope no-one else was waiting to use the books which the OP forgot to return!

Foggster

Edexcel say

Withholding certificates

Centres are reminded that certificates are and remain at all times the property of Edexcel. Where a candidate has been entered and an award has been claimed, but he/she has an outstanding financial obligation to the centre and the centre is considering withholding the candidate's certificate until settlement has been made, the centre must always seek the prior consent of Edexcel to withhold the certificate. Edexcel reserves the right not to permit the centre to withhold a certificate.

What could happen though is the school/college could then send the certificate back to the "owner" i.e. awarding body and the candidate would have to go through the hassle of retrieving it from them which can take a while.

MDE

I work in a school. At the beginning of the year we bought textbooks for a new course specification, one copy for each of the year group. 300 books @ £15 per book= £4500. The books will last upwards of 5 years, why should we replace them each year because people can't be bothered to return them?
Most centres have a pre authorisation from the exam boards to deal with certificates in a way they see fit- which includes withholding them from candidates where necessary.

Ste_C

angelatgraceland wrote: »

If it had said that failure to pay for unreturned books may result in court action I would not have a problem but witholding exam certificates I find very objectionable. Where can I find out about this/report it?
Has anyone else received a letter like this?

Are you for real?

Get over it and stop being such a victim. Who the hell are you going to report it to and who the hell do you think would care?

Whatever happened to common sense?