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Witholding Exam certificates
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angelatgraceland wrote: »As I did say-they are indeed having them back today-no problem with that. My question is whether such a threat can be legal. I do not like their bullying tactics.
Doubt they're thrilled about your stealing tactics...0 -
Idiophreak wrote: »Doubt they're thrilled about your stealing tactics...
What stealing tactics would those be? Returning a couple of books late?
I'm sure the OP just forgot about them. Why would she want to steal old school books?
It was the same at our school and it appears to be most places but I would be interested to know if it was actually legal. I think not.
Saying you can just return the books and get the certificate is not really the point if they are making incorrect and unenforceable threats.Wedding 5th September 20150 -
My friend has been ticketed twice (not me - I have to wait til Aug 20th to pass my test and be fined for parking cheekily)..I have seen the statement on the tickets...can't remember the exact wording, but it definitely was along the lines of 'pay or no graduation'. We were shocked!!! I will see if she still has the details, but it was genuinely about graduating...not attending the graduation.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley. 0 -
PS - you are very right....law is not my thing....Biology! "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley. 0
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I would say it is perfectly legal and would be a part of the contract between the university and the student.
Probably comes under the bit where you agree to be bound by the regulations of said university"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."
Bertrand Russell. British author, mathematician, & philosopher (1872 - 1970)0 -
BlueAngelCV wrote: »What stealing tactics would those be? Returning a couple of books late?
I'm sure the OP just forgot about them. Why would she want to steal old school books?
It was the same at our school and it appears to be most places but I would be interested to know if it was actually legal. I think not.
Saying you can just return the books and get the certificate is not really the point if they are making incorrect and unenforceable threats.
When I worked at a University for almost 10 years in the 90's it certainly was correct and it was enforceable. Maybe it's changed since, I don't know. A student got to know their grade but they couldn't have the degree conferred unless they paid all outstanding fees/fines etc. I never knew of anyone who refused or didn't do this but I do know that there was no way that the certificate would be handed over by the Chancellor at the degree ceremony. It couldn't even be conferred in absentia.
I suppose this could be challenged in the Court of Human Rights but it's far easier to just return books. 0 -
With things like books and other university property, I'm pretty sure it's all above board. The whole parking "fines" thing, however, is another matter. Because that would involve a separate contract whihc they would have to show that you breached.0
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Idiophreak wrote: »Doubt they're thrilled about your stealing tactics...
No stealing tactics! If you actually read my original post you may understand. My point is NOT about returning the books-they were returned today-it is about the legality of them trying to steal students certificates!
Some people here just do not seem very bright!Annual Grocery budget 2018 is £1500 pa £125 calendar month £28.84 pw for 3 adults0 -
I would say it is perfectly legal and would be a part of the contract between the university and the student.
Probably comes under the bit where you agree to be bound by the regulations of said university
Maybe-but in a school as opposed to a university-where a child is not able to make a legal contract this cannot apply. And I didnt agree to any such thing either(Im the parent)
My original post was about school. Also-the books were returned today but only one is counted.The other one has no barcode apparantly-they took it back but were in a muddle last year and now we still manage to owe them the book-yet it was returned today. They do not know what the heck they are doing!Annual Grocery budget 2018 is £1500 pa £125 calendar month £28.84 pw for 3 adults0 -
angelatgraceland wrote: »No stealing tactics! If you actually read my original post you may understand. My point is NOT about returning the books-they were returned today-it is about the legality of them trying to steal students certificates!
It's not stealing, it's withholding, a very different thing.
Some people here just do not seem very bright!
You asked for advice, you got it - no need to be insulting!
I hope now that the books are returned that the certificates are released in due course.0
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