Planning permission needed??

bazz

Hya. I`d like to have a new opening made on my outside wall + patio doors fitted. Would I need planning permission for it?:huh:
Thanks.......x x

iamcornholio

No .... unless a very new house (less than 10 years) which may have some restrictions

You will need building regs approval though

Steel_2

If you have the doors fitted by a company they usually take care of the building regs etc for you.

We had a set of external uPVC French doors fitted and the company that did it filled in all the relevant paperwork to confirm the installation was done to the required standards and a FENSA certificate later turned up in the post for us. Otherwise you have to pay for the building inspector to come round yourself.

Also, do find out about "change of use' rules. You're changing a blank wall to a door so your council might have rules about that. probably nothing to worry about but it pays to consider it beforehand.

Also, would your new door cause a problem for any neighbours in terms of privacy?

GClyde

Hi, you will need plans to be drawn up for building control approval. The plans should specify the lintol arrangement, closing off cavities to prevent fire spread, installation of damp proof courses, glazing to be in accordance with BS6262, and any step arrangement leading to the ground level etc.

Regards

Graham

iamcornholio

GClyde wrote: »

Hi, you will need plans to be drawn up for building control approval.

No, plans are a waste of time and money for this type of work.

Normally this will be done under a Building Notice

Also, If the OP uses a FENSA registered firm for the door installation, this will not cover any other structural alterations which may be required ( lintels, DPC, alterations to walls etc) and if structural work is required, then a separate application for building regualtions must be made.

FENSA firms can only certify the fitting of doors or windows, nothing else

There are no "change of use" rules for domestic work, and no consideration required for neighbours privacy

lfc321

iamcornholio wrote: »

No, plans are a waste of time and money for this type of work.

Normally this will be done under a Building Notice

Also, If the OP uses a FENSA registered firm for the door installation, this will not cover any other structural alterations which may be required ( lintels, DPC, alterations to walls etc) and if structural work is required, then a separate application for building regualtions must be made.

FENSA firms can only certify the fitting of doors or windows, nothing else

There are no "change of use" rules for domestic work, and no consideration required for neighbours privacy

this is the only correct answer you've had.

GClyde

lfc321 wrote: »

this is the only correct answer you've had.

Sorry to hear that you don't think that my advice is correct :cool:

My advice is based on experience as an ex-building control officer with 20 years experience, so I would like to think that I know what I am talking about.

Regards

Graham

iamcornholio

GClyde wrote: »

My advice is based on experience as an ex-building control officer with 20 years experience, so I would like to think that I know what I am talking about.

If so,then surely you don't expect someone to have full plans drawn for a door instalation? What is the Building Notice route for?

It's overkill to have plans drawn.

The OP should employ a competant builder and put the onus on him to make sure the work is compliant, pay one building notice fee to cover the door intallation and structural work, and that will be the most cost effective solution

System

it depends where the project is, building standards in england and scotland work differently, the op should clarify location so the correct advice can be given....
also the original question of planning permission depends entirely on the context of the new opening, if the house is out in the countryside with no near-by neighbours there should be no permission needed, but in an urban area putting a new glazed opening into a habitable room could have planning concerns, more so if it is a blank wall or new development.