Conventional Boiler without a fire?

jenks282_2

Hi,

Sorry if this is covered somewhere else, but I would like to clarify something. I currently have a baxi back boiler which I would like to replace. I like my baths so would prefer a conventional system as opposed to a combi boiler. The thing is, I don't want a fire. Is this possible? Can I just change for a new back boiler and have controls without the fire?

Cheers

Gavin

latecomer

I'm probably missing something but what has liking baths got to do preferring a conventional boiler?

We've just replaced a baxi back boiler with a combi in the garage and its great. Much better water pressure for showers and baths.

ziggyman99

No you would need a fire. Why do you want a new back boiler? Could you not put the boiler elsewhere? Also, the new condensing back boilers are very expensive.

LittleMissAspie

latecomer wrote: »

I'm probably missing something but what has liking baths got to do preferring a conventional boiler?

If it's a smallish boiler the hot water won't come out as fast because it can't heat it up fast enough. Our combi is slow to run a bath but on the other hand when we had a water tank, the tank wasn't big enough to fill up the bath. I don't remember slow water at our last place though so I suspect if you get a bigger wattage boiler it is fine.

Or why not get a conventional boiler and put it in the kitchen or a cupboard or the loft? You'll get a bigger living room too.

jenks282_2

My mother has a combi boiler which is useless at filling a bath, takes ages, is this just a bad one then?

Canucklehead

jenks282 wrote: »

Hi,

Sorry if this is covered somewhere else, but I would like to clarify something. I currently have a baxi back boiler which I would like to replace. I like my baths so would prefer a conventional system as opposed to a combi boiler. The thing is, I don't want a fire. Is this possible? Can I just change for a new back boiler and have controls without the fire?

Cheers

Gavin

Good evening: see here for advice.

HTH

Canucklehead

Owain_Moneysaver

You do not have to have a combi boiler but you almost certainly have to have a condensing boiler, which is more energy efficient. There are limited exemptions for being able to have a non-condensing boiler.

Baxi do a condensing back boiler replacement, but it has an electric fire-front which incorporates the boiler controls.

Modern boilers with fanned flues can be quite versatile in where they can be positioned, they do not have to go on an outside wall. If you have a loft you might be able to put it in there.

When you replace a boiler you may also have to replace your hot water cylinder to a Part L compliant one, and also upgrade controls to include thermistatic radiator valves, wall thermostat and programmer. This is required by Building Regulations.

On the upside your gas bills should approximately halve!

Mankysteve

You indeed need a condensing boiler but there is no requirement for it too be a combi. Condensing boilers and combi are two different things.

latecomer

jenks282 wrote: »

My mother has a combi boiler which is useless at filling a bath, takes ages, is this just a bad one then?

I suspect thats more to do with the mains water pressure/flow rate than the fact its a combi boiler.

ziggyman99

latecomer wrote: »

I suspect thats more to do with the mains water pressure/flow rate than the fact its a combi boiler.

It could equally be an undersized boiler - I see them every day.