Transfering HA tennancy to mumsie?

silvercar

astonsmummy, you don't have to explain yourself to anyone. You question was perfectly reasonable. If others have axes to grind they should be doing so on political chat boards not money saving ones. As they say, charity begins at home; good on you for helping your mum out, whatever her circumstances.

astonsmummy

whambamboo wrote:

I agree, but sometimes it's good to take action in time. If her mum's been on the sofa for 3 years why didn't she put her name down for a house 3 years ago? It doesn't sound like it has happened over night.

There is a waiting list to get a house, and if she'd put her name down she'd have one by now.

And if not, then at least she could start by putting her name down now. Actions bring results.

AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE!!:rolleyes: YOU DONT KNOW THE FACTS! WHERE I LIVE IT IS A 10 YEAR WAIT TO GET A PLACE, PLUS THE FACT SHE HAD A HOUSE (WHICH WAS REPOSSESED AT THE BEGGINING OF THE YEAR)
SHE IS ON THE COUNCIL LIST OBVIOUSLY BUT THEY WONT HELP HER!!!!!

whambamboo

silvercar wrote:

astonsmummy, you don't have to explain yourself to anyone. You question was perfectly reasonable. If others have axes to grind they should be doing so on political chat boards not money saving ones. As they say, charity begins at home; good on you for helping your mum out, whatever her circumstances.

Charity begins at home.... Yes, but not when it's not your house!!!!!!

How silly is that? You might as well say charity begins with benefit fraud. It is not her house to be charitable with, any more than it is your house or my house. It belongs to the LA/HA.

astonsmummy

whambamboo wrote:

Charity begins at home.... Yes, but not when it's not your house!!!!!!

How silly is that? You might as well say charity begins with benefit fraud. It is not her house to be charitable with, any more than it is your house or my house. It belongs to the LA/HA.

Asking if i can LEGALLY sign my tennancy over to my mum is NOT any form of fraud!:rolleyes:

silvercar

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bobbadog

Hi Astonsmummy! I'm sure your local housing officer will look on your case individually and with as much sympathy as possible, especially as your mum has been living in the property with you and considers it her home Best of luck! x

RHemmings

astonsmummy wrote:

What and the fact that my mum has no proper home of her own (sleeps on the sofa at my nans and has done for 3 years) but wont be helped by the council because she isnt pregnant or an immigrant doesnt count for anything?:rolleyes:
Before you start making foolish accusations i suggest you get al the facts first.:mad:
My mother has lost her home and any chance of buying a new one, she should of got £80k or more and got a measly £10k, is in the proccess of going to court, payed £300 yesterday to be told she probably wont get the money back so dont come on here all high and mighty thnx coz it dont wash with me.
I wasn't in the slightest thinking about getting one over on the HA, if i wanted to do that i would just rent it out to her, but no i was willing to sign my tennancy over to her so she has a proper home and i would private rent.

I think this is quite a complicated case, and I can see the viewpoints of those people both for and against your transfer. Probably a case that uninvolved bystanders should stay out of. But as the original post looked to me like a case of "putting one over on the HA", I thanked libitina's post.

But trying to take some time to think of this, and having read your other posts, I can see why you think your mother justifies getting the house. But it would be reasonable for the housing association to refuse to give her the house if a family needed it.

So, not that anyone asked me, my opinion would be that there would be nothing wrong, morally or practically, with an honest above-board approach to the HA to ask them if the tenancy can be transferred. And if this is possible and done, they can advise you how to go about it. But, even giving you and your mother's past difficulties, I think any subterfuge or manipulation of the situation would be of doubtful morality. Not that you have said that you would do anything sneaky, underhand, or illegal. After all, the availability of the house might be the difference between another family escapting violence and/or abuse, and them not.

astonsmummy

RHemmings wrote:

I think this is quite a complicated case, and I can see the viewpoints of those people both for and against your transfer. Probably a case that uninvolved bystanders should stay out of. But as the original post looked to me like a case of "putting one over on the HA", I thanked libitina's post.

But trying to take some time to think of this, and having read your other posts, I can see why you think your mother justifies getting the house. But it would be reasonable for the housing association to refuse to give her the house if a family needed it.

So, not that anyone asked me, my opinion would be that there would be nothing wrong, morally or practically, with an honest above-board approach to the HA to ask them if the tenancy can be transferred. And if this is possible and done, they can advise you how to go about it. But, even giving you and your mother's past difficulties, I think any subterfuge or manipulation of the situation would be of doubtful morality. Not that you have said that you would do anything sneaky, underhand, or illegal. After all, the availability of the house might be the difference between another family escapting violence and/or abuse, and them not.

I understand what you are saying, the only reason i said things about her past is because someone made the assumtion i was going to try and defraud the HA- i was asking a generall question as i didnt know wether it would be possible at all (even though i thought it wouldnt) just wanted it clarified.
My mum is already on the housing list and wouldnt be able to plead domestic violence anyway as she never reported it, and my mum certainly wouldnt lie about anything - she is the most honest person i know!
I didnt mean the questin to sound like i was trying to be sneaky coz i'm not it was just a question really

Debt_Free_Chick

astonsmummy wrote:

AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE!!:rolleyes: YOU DONT KNOW THE FACTS! WHERE I LIVE IT IS A 10 YEAR WAIT TO GET A PLACE, PLUS THE FACT SHE HAD A HOUSE (WHICH WAS REPOSSESED AT THE BEGGINING OF THE YEAR)
SHE IS ON THE COUNCIL LIST OBVIOUSLY BUT THEY WONT HELP HER!!!!!

I understand how you feel about your mum, but your original question should be directed to the HA. We don't know the answer for sure ..... of course "it's possible" in as much as there is no physical barrier that would prevent a transfer of the tenancy. But the property is owned by the HA and only they can tell you what they will agree to.

Let me give you an example.

There may well be 100 people on the HA waiting list. Some may be in a similar position to your mum. Some may be in a slightly better position. Some may be in a much worse position e.g. mother of three kids currently in a battered mother's refuge.

Clearly, you think your mum is a most deserving case. But you don't know the position of anyone else on the HA waiting list, so you can't assess whether she is the most deserving case (although, most of us would think our own mums are - that's human nature).

Unfortunately, there are many people who do "work" or fiddle the system. I'll bet there are plenty of people in HA accommodation who are not strictly entitled to it. People in a different position to you and in a much better position than your mum. But the HA have never been told that the original tenant is no longer living in the property and that a relative has moved in. (Don't rely in the neighbours shopping them to the HA - most don't know or understand the rules and would probably think it's perfectly acceptable for other members of the original tenant's family to "share" the property).

So ... ask the HA. But be prepared for them to tell you that she has to go to the back of the queue. On the other hand, they just might give preference to a family member with genuine needy circumstances ... but I very much doubt it. Sorry

PropertyGuru

Debt_Free_Chick wrote:

Unfortunately, there are many people who do "work" or fiddle the system.

how true. I myself have had tenants ask me to 'evict them' with 'relevant documentation' so they can jump to the top of the council's waiting lists because they have become 'unintentionally homeless'.

The more complex a system the easier it is for the unscrupulous to find loopholes.