Children, and playing in the street

clairehi

GobbledyGook wrote: »

People expect children to be rude and unruly these days. Adults also often show children very little respect or manners. We can't expect children to be well mannered if they don't get any examples from adults.

I agree with this. Quite often, my (primary school age) boys get barged aside in shops and queues by older people. The same old folk would have cooed over them when they were toddlers but now they are a little older and taller, they are apparently invisible.

The irony is that you can bet it is the same ones who moan about kids making a noise on the street who also disapprove of them spending time in front of the TV/PS3 etc.

More generally I remember the same moaning from the oldies about kids "not being brought up properly" when I was a youngster playing out nearly 30 years ago so it is complete rubbish to say that this is a new problem. The problem of older people being intolerant and apparently having no realistic recollection of being a child, is as old as time. And anyone who never got told off by a grownup for being an unruly kid either had a very sad childhood or has a totally unreliable memory.

pigpen

I can cope with the squealing playful children.. good job having my brood who incidentally i wouldn't allow to play in the street.. but my house backs on to a nursery with around 200 children under 5.. the staff make more noise than the children and last summer I rang to complain about the noise of the staff several times.. one of them was screaming at the top of her lungs like she was being murdered .. then encouraged the children to scream.. bet their parents were thankful!!

It is the old miserable gits in those mobility scooters i could strangle.. there is one here (Davros) who I have had run ins with on several occasions.. he once threatened to run over my 2 little ones as they 'were walking too slowly' I said tough crap they both have mobility issues.. he just has an attitude problem and goes way too fast to be on the footpath.

I think it is more the adults who have become ignorant and insular and need to recall the days they were chidren and the things they got up to! There were more children playing out in the past but they didn't all stay in their street they were able to go to parks and open spaces and school fields which are all too precious to be sullied by playing children now and there is the fear if they are out of sight they will be murdered or worse!

loracan1

GobbledyGook wrote: »

There is a grassy area behind our flats that children have played football on or rode bikes on since I was a young child. One resident started a campaign to the council to have it fenced or ploughed up so the kids couldn't use it.

The council came along and erected 'no ball games' signs on what is and has been for decades, a childrens' play area behind my house at the request of some residents. I'm happy and proud to say that virtually every child living within 100yards blatantly flaunts this order.

As for 'are children getting noisier?' No, but it's a sign of getting older when you think they are.

chaosweddings

GobbledyGook wrote: »

he council ploughed it up. Funnily enough though when we were chil
People expect children to be rude and unruly these days. Adults also often show children very little respect or manners. My daughter held a door open in the shopping centre yesterday and 8 adults walked through without thanking her or even acknowledging her. The first to do so and take the door from her was a teenage Goth. We can't expect children to be well mannered if they don't get any examples from adults.

My son had the same thing happen, held the door open for about 8 people and not one person thanked him so i told him to let the door go, when he did it he got scowled at by a oldish lady who then barged past us with her trolley thing, but what made our day was as she barged past the security alarms went off and security took her back in the shop :rotfl:

we live in a close with approx 18 bungalows all owned by the over 60's and 6 houses owned by under 60's
. Ds was approached by one elderly neighbour who asked him why he didnt play outside, my sons answer was he didnt want to get shouted at by the people living in the street. the neighbour said it was sad that kids dont play out as much anymore.

chloe99_2

ha ha ha - I have a little saying of my own, not how come children are so much ruder than they used to be but "How come old people are so much ruder than they used to be??"

Honestly - the foul mouths and attitudes, disrespect, lack of consideration (I could go on and on and ....) from people I would guess are in their 60s is staggering. Especially compared with the way poeople in the same age group behaved during my childhood.

Interestingly, the people in their late 70s and 80s (who might have been the polite old folk of yesteryear) are still polite.

Fang_3

chloe99 wrote: »

ha ha ha - I have a little saying of my own, not how come children are so much ruder than they used to be but "How come old people are so much ruder than they used to be??"

Honestly - the foul mouths and attitudes, disrespect, lack of consideration (I could go on and on and ....) from people I would guess are in their 60s is staggering. Especially compared with the way poeople in the same age group behaved during my childhood.

Interestingly, the people in their late 70s and 80s (who might have been the polite old folk of yesteryear) are still polite.

Oh I don't know. Before she died, in her 90s, my Great Aunt took part in gang warfare at THE HOME. The woman who lived in the flat opposite her was always running about shutting the windows because of her 'hayfever'. She didn't have it, she was just a contrary witch. She was once locked into the toilet off the lounge. Fifteen pensioners sat watching TV and not one of them could explain how the cane managed to find itself propped up against the handle. Strange that.

Fang_3

pigpen wrote: »

I can cope with the squealing playful children.. good job having my brood who incidentally i wouldn't allow to play in the street.. but my house backs on to a nursery with around 200 children under 5.. the staff make more noise than the children and last summer I rang to complain about the noise of the staff several times.. one of them was screaming at the top of her lungs like she was being murdered .. then encouraged the children to scream.. bet their parents were thankful!!

It is the old miserable gits in those mobility scooters i could strangle.. there is one here (Davros) who I have had run ins with on several occasions.. he once threatened to run over my 2 little ones as they 'were walking too slowly' I said tough crap they both have mobility issues.. he just has an attitude problem and goes way too fast to be on the footpath.

I think it is more the adults who have become ignorant and insular and need to recall the days they were chidren and the things they got up to! There were more children playing out in the past but they didn't all stay in their street they were able to go to parks and open spaces and school fields which are all too precious to be sullied by playing children now and there is the fear if they are out of sight they will be murdered or worse!

Davros!!! Brilliant! Ha!

LilacLouisa

pigpen wrote: »

I can cope with the squealing playful children.. good job having my brood who incidentally i wouldn't allow to play in the street.. but my house backs on to a nursery with around 200 children under 5.. the staff make more noise than the children and last summer I rang to complain about the noise of the staff several times.. one of them was screaming at the top of her lungs like she was being murdered .. then encouraged the children to scream.. bet their parents were thankful!!

It is the old miserable gits in those mobility scooters i could strangle.. there is one here (Davros) who I have had run ins with on several occasions.. he once threatened to run over my 2 little ones as they 'were walking too slowly' I said tough crap they both have mobility issues.. he just has an attitude problem and goes way too fast to be on the footpath.

I think it is more the adults who have become ignorant and insular and need to recall the days they were chidren and the things they got up to! There were more children playing out in the past but they didn't all stay in their street they were able to go to parks and open spaces and school fields which are all too precious to be sullied by playing children now and there is the fear if they are out of sight they will be murdered or worse!

If the man on the mobility scooter really is going too fast to be on the pavement, you should tell him he should be on the road. If he is entitled to be on the pavement though, could you show some courtesy to a disabled person by asking your children to move aside while he goes past? He may be in a fair amount of pain, resulting in a grumpy and crotchety mood, and a cheery smile might make his day.

Years ago more kids did play in the street, but there was less cars about then, and if kids were noisy anyone could tell them to be quiet without fear of being effed and jeffed at. If you watch films from the 60`s and 70`s it is amazing how much less traffic there is on the roads.

Why are parks, open spaces and school fields too precious to be sullied by children? I can see that you might worry about them coming to harm in some way unless you were there to keep an eye on them though.

LilacLouisa

Fang wrote: »

Davros!!! Brilliant! Ha!

Yeah it so hilarious to make fun of the disabled, they are such an easy target too.

gabyjane

I agree children do tend to be 'louder' than they used to be and the screaming tends to get ignored where we are if we ever do hear anything unless it sounds iffy as it is usually teenagers playing around! I don't remember as a child screaming the neighbourhood down and think my dad would have dragged me in if i had!
I think as well like someone else said it is people being a little more wary of children these days. We had lived in this house for about 2 weeks and some little ratbag stole the covers off our wheels..i was livid but more upset as had visions of us having moved into a dodgy area! i think it was the novelty of a new estate and us being the first in and it was fun to play around..now we have no trouble and it is normally quiet as anything BUT i would be wary of telling one of the kids off just incase they did something stupid as you never know..sad isn't it really.