How are third and pass degrees regarded these days?

talksalot81

ringo_24601 wrote:

You might get an MSc course with a 3rd, but I still wouldn't hire you. I've seen the inner workings of MSc course administration - I honestly don't think it's any more difficult than doing another 3rd year on an undergrad course.

Yeah... alot of the time it seems to be just down to learning more facts. I appreciate some subjects tend to be like that, but I consider facts as rather incomparable to skills.

studentphil

I read an interesting comment on another thread that a computing degree is easy and I found that puzzling.

Blacksheep1979

studentphil wrote:

I read an interesting comment on another thread that a computing degree is easy and I found that puzzling.

well if you found a comment puzzling you should maybe rethink further education j/k

talksalot81

studentphil wrote:

I read an interesting comment on another thread that a computing degree is easy and I found that puzzling.

Horses for courses! You can bet Stephen Hawking would tell you theoretical physics was an easy degree... doesnt make it so for the rest of us!

Barcode

Can't you just turn up at their office? I'm deaf, so can't use the phone. Instead, I use their office hours which are clearly displayed on their doors. Surely, most lecturers have a designated time each week when they are available to deal with queries from students?

I'm sorry Phil, but it does not sound like you are the most pro-active person. Lecturers are very, very busy and e-mail is not the best way to communicate. Either turn up, or get somebody to book an appointment by phone for you if you feel unable to do this.

studentphil

Barcode wrote:

Can't you just turn up at their office? I'm deaf, so can't use the phone. Instead, I use their office hours which are clearly displayed on their doors. Surely, most lecturers have a designated time each week when they are available to deal with queries from students?

I'm sorry Phil, but it does not sound like you are the most pro-active person. Lecturers are very, very busy and e-mail is not the best way to communicate. Either turn up, or get somebody to book an appointment by phone for you if you feel unable to do this.

The is a slightly wrong reading to take I have made many phone calls and have been to see mant people before now. I have made an appointment to see a couple of lecturers in the first week anyway

missk_ensington

I'm sure I read that Carol Voderman got a 1st in Maths from Oxford or Cambridge, I don't think she got a third.

In any event, in answer to 'what does a third mean?' in my view, it means to same as an E at A-Level, technically you've graduated but not with anything any emplyer would look twice at thus having wasted three years of your life and accumulated probably 10k of debt.

melancholly

missk_ensington wrote:

I'm sure I read that Carol Voderman got a 1st in Maths from Oxford or Cambridge, I don't think she got a third.

In any event, in answer to 'what does a third mean?' in my view, it means to same as an E at A-Level, technically you've graduated but not with anything any emplyer would look twice at thus having wasted three years of your life and accumulated probably 10k of debt.

i think she got a third in engineering from cambridge.........

studentphil

In fact one Lecturer I know in engineering a third class honours in engineering is all he has (no PHD or MSc) and he had a lectureship at oxford and lectureships in the Far East. So it just shows you what you can do with a third.

missk_ensington

I think these are probably exceptions rather than the rule, especially if your discipline is something very competitive like journalism or English.

There is also a prestige attached to an Oxbridge degree, I'm fairly sure you could fail your degree from Oxbridge and still get a good job.