speeding...but I wasn't!

danny3_2

flyingscotno1 wrote: »

Never understood this argument. Why would the police be interested in the money- the forces never see any of it - enforcement indeed has to be paid from budgets.

In any case it is amazing how many 'good' drivers rack up points for speeding.

Any money you pay in motering fines goes direct to the police forces budget,it has been that way for a few years now,so they do have a vested interest in dishing out fines

flyingscotno1

danny3 wrote: »

Any money you pay in motering fines goes direct to the police forces budget,it has been that way for a few years now,so they do have a vested interest in dishing out fines

Absolute rubbish. Netting off ended years ago-

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Usingmotorwaysandroads/Roadsafetyadvice/DG_10025598

"All fines go to HM Treasury. Neither the police nor local councils profit from fines"

misssarahleigh

flyingscotno1 wrote: »

Absolute rubbish. Netting off ended years ago-

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Usingmotorwaysandroads/Roadsafetyadvice/DG_10025598

"All fines go to HM Treasury. Neither the police nor local councils profit from fines"

Apart from reaching there set targets for bonuses

anewman

Is it still true that the speed detectors can register a speed if its aim moves from one object to another, e.g. from one car behind to a car in front, and this can lead to misreadings? If so I suspect a few speed camera detecting people who are probably given back handers/made to work to targets know all they need to know to produce false evidence against law abiding motorists?

robredz

anewman wrote: »

Is it still true that the speed detectors can register a speed if its aim moves from one object to another, e.g. from one car behind to a car in front, and this can lead to misreadings? If so I suspect a few speed camera detecting people who are probably given back handers/made to work to targets know all they need to know to produce false evidence against law abiding motorists?

They can make a stone wall or a child on roller skates do 70mph in a 30 if they (mis)handle the gun correctly, perhaps they live in Mochdre

Rolandtheroadie

robredz wrote: »

They can make a stone wall or a child on roller skates do 70mph in a 30 if they (mis)handle the gun correctly

When I got my recent NIP, I filled it in then I asked for the evidence. The 3 pictures they sent me could tell me nothing. One of them however could have caught a branch off a tree instead of the exhaust the other 2 pics were focused on.
The only reason I pled guilty is because the speedo on the bike didnt work. I'd just bought it and couldnt guarantee I wasnt speeding. I was supposedly 15 MPH over but I felt the expense to try and stop getting the 3 points outweighed the points and £60 fine.

sarahg1969

I got done for 39 in a 30 outside a school. After proceedings had been issued, we established that it was a telegraph pole that was doing 39, and not my car.

anewman

sarahg1969 wrote: »

a telegraph pole that was doing 39, and not my car.

If such a fundamental error can be made that a stationary object can be deemed as having broken the speed limit, you have to wonder why these things are admissible in court or even allowed to be used at all.

robredz

anewman wrote: »

If such a fundamental error can be made that a stationary object can be deemed as having broken the speed limit, you have to wonder why these things are admissible in court or even allowed to be used at all.

It's part of the milk the motorist scam, by placing the talivans where they can make the most money, rather than where there is a real hazard. :mad: They also often use the T2020 laser at a greater distance from the target than is permitted in other countries, making the possibility of a false or erroneous reading more likely.

sarahg1969

anewman wrote: »

If such a fundamental error can be made that a stationary object can be deemed as having broken the speed limit, you have to wonder why these things are admissible in court or even allowed to be used at all.

I agree, absolutely. The worst thing is, you are not even entitled to see the evidence until after proceedings are issued. You have to be made of stern stuff to allow that to happen, and to not just crumble and given in to their demands.