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private parking obstruction fine

fined today £100 reduced to £70 if payed within 7 days for apparent obstructio in a private car park a piece of rough ground very intermitantly marked. My vehicle was parked on the end of a row with plenty of room for adjacent cars to move one of which had done while we were shopping we had a valid ticket and have taken a pic to prove our point how do i apeal this as there idea of obstruction is clearly different to mine.

Dave
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  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
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    For a start it's not a "fine", it's an unenforceable invoice. Do not contact the company and ignore all correspondence from them.

    You have done nothing wrong and you have not broken any laws. The parking company is just a bunch of private citizens who have no more power than you or me to demand money for breaking one of their "rules".
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • Mupette
    Mupette Posts: 4,599 Forumite
    who issued the ticket, if it was a private company, ignore.

    coupn man, peterpiper and co who know all this will be along to put you at ease
    GNU
    Terry Pratchett
    ((((Ripples))))
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 161,434 Forumite
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    edited 3 July 2010 at 11:10PM
    bbdave wrote: »
    fined today £100 reduced to £70 if payed within 7 days for apparent obstructio in a private car park a piece of rough ground very intermitantly marked. My vehicle was parked on the end of a row with plenty of room for adjacent cars to move one of which had done while we were shopping we had a valid ticket and have taken a pic to prove our point how do i apeal this as there idea of obstruction is clearly different to mine.

    Dave


    I am here, hope we can put you at ease, Dave. (But Coupon-mad is a laydee, not a man, Mupette!).

    Dave, you have NOT been fined today. Only the Police and Local Authorities can issue parking fines, not private companies.

    There's tons on the internet about this issue, Google 'private parking scam' and look for forum posts on here, pepipoo.com, consumer action group, all of which will tell you that such tickets are unenforceable trash.

    Watchdog covered this last month, and their legal bod helpfully confirmed just what we tell everyone to do with fake parking tickets (whether you have 'contravened their pathetic rules' or not):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA

    :T:rotfl:

    The registered keeper will receive a few debt collector letters telling you to pay.

    Do not panic, do not believe the lies on the letters about Court/CCJs/dire consequences! See examples here of what to ignore and be prepared for, don't bother to actually read their threats:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=2214803

    To be proactive, if the scam letters get tiresome you may like to also report the company and their debt collectors for harassment:

    http://www.nationaldebtline.co.uk/en...=03_harassment

    But don't forget this is NOT a debt, NOT a fine, just a mickey mouse ticket.

    Nothing happens, your credit record is NOT affected, so don't fall for this con. Be angry about their illegal scary letters, tell your friends never to pay a private parking ticket. Spread the word.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 161,434 Forumite
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    edited 4 July 2010 at 12:17AM
    Ooops, sorry, duplicate post!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • bbdave
    bbdave Posts: 11 Forumite
    Thanks that has put me at ease it's money i can ill afford it at the mo.

    my credit rating is shot anyway having been bankrupt, the company in question is is PPS (Premier parking solutions) of Newton abbot.
  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
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    bbdave wrote: »
    Thanks that has put me at ease it's money i can ill afford it at the mo.

    my credit rating is shot anyway having been bankrupt, the company in question is is PPS (Premier parking solutions) of Newton abbot.

    And, of course, the only way these people can affect your credit rating is if they take you to court (very unlikely) , you lose (very, very unlikely) and then you refuse to pay whatever the judge orders. As this will never happen you have nothing to worry about.

    PPS are well known on here and can safely be ignored.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • AlexisV
    AlexisV Posts: 1,890 Forumite
    It's a scam. Ignore scammers and they go away.
  • bbdave
    bbdave Posts: 11 Forumite
    Thanks loads consider me ignoring it i'll keep everyone posted as to whats happening.


    Dave
  • bbdave
    bbdave Posts: 11 Forumite
    Had a couple of letters now the latest threatening a local baliff and court action the debt now being £127 still ignoring them but it is hard

    Dave
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 161,434 Forumite
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    bbdave wrote: »
    Had a couple of letters now the latest threatening a local baliff and court action the debt now being £127 still ignoring them but it is hard

    Dave



    They can't instruct a bailiff without:

    - firstly taking you to Court and
    - them winning the case, and
    - then you refusing to pay the judgment.

    Not going to happen. Out of interest, which debt collector do they use for their letters, or do they send their own letters from PPS?

    If the letters are any different than those scanned in on our sticky thread here please could you find a mo to take pics of those letters (with date, names, car ID, refs and barcodes blanked out)? Add the pics linked to a reply on that thread, not here, and if you find you can't post full links then just remove the http:// from the front and we can convert them to clicky links. Those letter chains are so useful for newbies to see the scam through.

    Keep ignoring! :)
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
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