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Is this right, is this fair?

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  • Blackpool_Saver
    Blackpool_Saver Posts: 6,599 Forumite
    very bitter folk on here
    Blackpool_Saver is female, and does not live in Blackpool

  • seven-day-weekend
    seven-day-weekend Posts: 36,755 Forumite
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    edited 3 July 2010 at 10:03PM
    The other option is that the well sister has savings above the limit for Pension Credit.

    And has not enough qualifying years for a full Pension.
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  • baza52
    baza52 Posts: 3,029 Forumite
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    Vedder2008 wrote: »
    I am not whinging and moaning about unfair policy on my non working sisterQUOTE]

    just moaning about what your working sister cant get......
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,574 Forumite
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    Vedder2008 wrote: »
    You clearly do not know my sisters lifestyle or in fact anything else about her.
    She worked until the age of 17 then went on to have two children which she brought up on benefits on her own as she never married.
    When they left home in their early teens she went on sick with migraines

    You could only get IB if you had worked and paid NI contributions for the relevant years prior to claiming, unless you were claiming under the youth rules. With this history, I don't see how she could ever have claimed IB.
  • real1314
    real1314 Posts: 4,432 Forumite
    Vedder2008 wrote: »
    I do have the full story and seen the paperwork, and she does receive less, you seem to know an awfull lot about the system!!!!!!!!


    Give up the figures for each of them then, with a full breakdown of which benefits / incomes they each have, and people can attempt to explain to you why there might be a difference.
  • Wow am I glad that I am not related my husband is on incapacity and I have just lost my job due to necessary redundancies, I hope to get another job soon but for the first time in 11 years I am having to claim Carer's Allowance I hope they pay my stamps too.

    Of course it's fair if you can't work you get a benefit and thats the way it should be
  • Jowo_2
    Jowo_2 Posts: 8,308 Forumite
    Most applicants who transition from IB to ESA are found fit to work in at least some capacity as it focusses on capability so the type of non-chronic conditions that allowed someone to claim IB with no requirement to seek work will be a thing of the past. In fact, if anything, critics of ESA say that it is overstrict and is requiring those with chronic conditions to seek employment. I think people on IB are all transitioning over to ESA in the next few years but the word is out about the high 'failure' rate (applicants) or 'success' rate (government) on the medicals because a lot of people on IB withdraw their claim ahead of it.
  • By the way, what is DT ? is it abbreviation for another forum ?
  • Jowo_2
    Jowo_2 Posts: 8,308 Forumite
    DT is the abbreviation for the Discussion Time forum which is where general discussions on benefit policy (as opposed to specific questions about entitlement) should take place. To some, it's a forum where there is healthy debate about the benefits system. To others, its considered the benefit bashing forum.
  • Thanks Jowo
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