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Staffie V Greyhound??

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  • arlybarly
    arlybarly Posts: 985 Forumite
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    my dog has a distinct liking for white staffies - I think she must have known one in her previous life - as a result, she always starts tail wagging when she sees one and generally gets a friendly response... her and my mums lurcher had a wonderful run about with a staffy on the playing fields the other day, and he was incredibly tolerant considering he had a collie x trying to herd him, and a lurcher trying to get him to chase her! :D

    I wonder if your dislike for the breed is picked up on by your dogs?


    My dogs are on the lead in public places except the field at the back of my house, my dogs get on with other dogs and will have a rough and tumble with them its just staffs that dont seem to like them for some reason but i dont think they would have picked this up from me because before they started attacking mine i had no opinion of them either way.
  • Jellicat
    Jellicat Posts: 274 Forumite
    arlybarly wrote: »
    I knew id get really slagged off for having a go about Staffies BUT these are only a couple of incidences i have had along with a few others to do with this vile breed. The staff episode wasnt chavvy kids either, the owner was a woman who was so appologetic about her dog trying to rip Daisys throat out i almost felt sorry for her. Yes they are probably good with people they know but this breed is renown for not liking other dogs. They should be muzzled and kept on a short lead and also speyed so they dont reproduce anymore unwanted offspring to fill the dog rescues up.

    Apologetic or not she's still an irresponsible owner for letting a dog aggressive dog run about loose, so falls into the bad owner category along with the chavs, so again its HER fault not the dogs.

    Collies are renowned for being neurotic, this is because a lot of people coop them up in flats in the middle of big cities and don't give them the exercise they require. Labs are renowned for pulling like trains, terriers are renowned for being yappy little SOB's. Pretty much every dog is "renowned" for something bad that doesn't mean you can't get past it with proper training! Whilst I fully agree that keeping AGGRESSIVE staffies muzzled and on short leashes (as with any aggressive dog), why punish the majority of innocent ones for the minority of crazy ones?

    Look at it this way, staffies are pretty damned popular dogs. If they were as bad as you are making out there would be about ten attacks on people and dogs reported in the newspapers every day.
  • arlybarly
    arlybarly Posts: 985 Forumite
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    are popular but once people realise what they are like they get dumped in the dogs home as the staffie population there exceeds any other breed by far.
  • Jellicat
    Jellicat Posts: 274 Forumite
    edited 2 July 2010 at 6:18PM
    LOL you're not exactly proving your point here. Generally the most responsible people don't dump their dogs in the first place. Staffies have a bad reputation, so attract the wrong people, hence their overwhelming presence in dog rescues.
  • Rev
    Rev Posts: 3,171 Forumite
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    arlybarly wrote: »
    are popular but once people realise what they are like they get dumped in the dogs home as the staffie population there exceeds any other breed by far.


    Sorry, but you're wrong there too. I have two staffys, I've 'realised what they're like', affectionate, loyal dogs, if not a little boisterous that require extra training.

    In total there are 6 staffys in my extended family, nobody has dumped them anywhere.

    The reason there are so many staffys in rescue centres is because chavs use them to look cool, they also use them as weapons, when they wont attack other dogs, or when they get too old, or get injured, the owner loses interest and compared to what some do to the dogs they no longer want, rescue is preferable.

    As above, every dog is 'renowned' for something, I bet the dog you have is 'renowned' for something too.

    Anyway, I wont say 'lets agree to disagree' but I will stop wasting my time and leave you to your bigoted, closed minded opinion.

    Right, off to walk my two staffys, I hope they manage to go a whole walk without savaging any dogs or people.
    Sigless
  • arlybarly
    arlybarly Posts: 985 Forumite
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    awwww thanks Rev go back to your preaching now or whatever it is you do lol .
  • I have a rescue staffie cross and she is the most loving, funny affectionate dog I've ever owned and I will definitely rehome one in the future, finances permitting. She snores really loudly, farts for England and talks to me in a high pitched grumble:D

    I have also fostered greyhounds and they are beautiful and loyal, almost regal dogs.

    spoilt for choice with these two dogs really x
  • Soubrette
    Soubrette Posts: 4,118 Forumite
    My experiences with my ex-racing greyhound.


    Pros
    • Very lazy - when in the house he's a dedicated snoozer. We both work, me part time and husband partly at home so he's never on his own for more than about 2-3 hours a day at a time but I know he's just snoozing rather than getting anxious or being bored :)
    • Not a big shedder - although mine does have an undercoat that he sheds in the spring/summer.
    • I don't know whether it is partly because of the shedding but he doesn't smell particularly doggy (except when wet!!)
    • For a large dog he takes up very little space - his beds are another matter ;)
    • Not a big barker - he will bark, but not at people passing, people posting things etc. Basically he barks only if he thinks someone is encroaching on his territory.
    • Not the brightest dog in the pack :D This is a bit contentious as some Grey owners think their dogs are really smart. I had a dog which was actually very smart and it was a running battle with him opening doors, stealing etc. My grey is simply not smart enough to do those things.
    • Despite being a greedy guts, he is not a scrounger, he doesn't hang over our food waiting to to be fed.
    Cons - mostly, I believe, because he is an ex-racer.
    • Very keen on small furries - his breed has been bred to chase for generations and he's been trained to chase. Perhaps large dollops of training would help but I'd never trust him.
    • Not well socialised. Doesn't like dogs coming too close, even friendly happy dogs. Loud aggressive dogs will get a big dollop of the same back and small dogs - well see above re small furries - far too interested in them :(
    • Not well socialised with people - new people make him nervous and being a bloke he has to be gobby about it. After living here with two teenagers and various age friends and families trooping in and out he is much better. Be aware that no matter how much you tell people to ignore the dog even if he sniffs you, someone will try and stroke him so I always keep an eye on him now.
    • Can be nervous if woken unexpectedly.
    • Very poor toileting. Most greys pick this up fairly quickly but mine just reverts to going whenever he feels like if he is stressed in any way. It's then a big problem getting him back into going outside.
    A few cons about my dog's physiology - he has am autoimmune disease but I believe in general greyhounds have a good physiology compared to other pedigrees and finally, he has a very delicate stomach. I had the opportunity to try a new food - hypoallergenic autarky - 2 days mixed half and half with Wagg and he had a runny bottom :( Back on the Wagg again :D

    Sou
  • foreign_correspondent
    foreign_correspondent Posts: 9,542 Forumite
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    edited 2 July 2010 at 9:09PM
    arlybarly wrote: »
    are popular but once people realise what they are like they get dumped in the dogs home as the staffie population there exceeds any other breed by far.

    :rotfl:

    If anything the opposite is true! Once people get past their preconceptions and realise what they are really like, the breed grows on them!

    I was never that keen on staffs till I got to know some, and was won over by their temprements and personalities - in my experience, they are,one of the most affectionate, people-focussed breeds out there...

    My mum looked after a stray staffie, Abbie, for me overnight, and fell in love with her - in contrast to my mum's rather aloof and independant lurcher, my mum couldnt believe how much the little staffie wanted to cuddle up to her, and the affection she expressed to a complete stranger... if her owner hadnt come forwars she would definitely have kept her!

    ...the reasons staffies end up in rescue are that they are tremendously overbred and that they are a powerful looking little dog who tends to be the choice of young lads who would like you to think they have a 'nasty' dog - if anything, the realisation that their staffy is more likely to lick people to death than bite them is likely to be a dissapointment!

    I was never that keen on staffs till I got to know some, and realised they are, in general, one of the most affectionate people-focussed breeds out there...
  • hethmar
    hethmar Posts: 10,678 Forumite
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    I was just thinking about people's perceptions of staffs - the Butcher in our little town has his daughter,a mature lady, working in the shop. He knows I like dogs and he will often bang on the window and pass out some bits for my dogs if Im passing with them. When I was in the shop once (and this is in a 16th century house with a latch door :)) the daughter was asking about my boys and her father said, "Have you met her rottweiller?" I said I hadnt and she laughed, called me through to the back of the house and there on the sofa, on her back, legs akimbo was a little staffie. PMSL, she said her dad tells everyone she has a devil dog - and there was this little girl, not even attempting to get through to the butchers shop, which I reckon most dogs would.
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