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Opinions on "Tenancy Agreement"

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  • blued
    blued Posts: 698 Forumite
    Good point! I'll just point out the parts she needs to change before I sign and leave it at that.

    Thanks :)
  • clutton_2
    clutton_2 Posts: 11,149 Forumite
    edited 29 June 2010 at 9:53PM
    if you dont want to sign it .... dont... its your home.....

    you clearly have misgivings about her already - her half truths....
  • N79
    N79 Posts: 2,615 Forumite
    Whatever decision you take, why on earth should you back date the signature? If you are going to sign then just sign and date the form in the normal manner. I can't see what justification the T has for asking you to forge the agreement date?
  • Eton_Rifle
    Eton_Rifle Posts: 372 Forumite
    edited 29 June 2010 at 10:06PM
    I'd go with the scary form you found, make appropriate changes and present that! At least, I wouldn't sign anything with the word 'tenant' in it.

    I wonder if she's trying to apply for credit using your address and needs proof of the address?
    Or maybe she's trying to join the local library?

    editing - to sum up, I'm thinking she needs to prove she lives at your house rather than trying to inveigle extra rights.
  • blued
    blued Posts: 698 Forumite
    Dont worry I won't be back dating anything. It will be dated with the current date. She didn't ask me to back date it, but her part was already signed when she gave it to me. She's been out since then so I haven't seen her.

    clutton, you're right, I do have misgivings. In some ways she is the perfect lodger. Clean, quiet and other than cooking and eating spends almost all her time in her room. However she hasn't worked since she moved in at the end of May. Says she went away travelling and came back during the recession to no permanent work and had just been temping. While this is not a problem at the moment because she pays her rent it means she's in the house the majority of the time. Not a problem in the summer but in the winter it can't continue.
  • blued
    blued Posts: 698 Forumite
    Eton_Rifle wrote: »
    I'd go with the scary form you found, make appropriate changes and present that! At least, I wouldn't sign anything with the word 'tenant' in it.

    I wonder if she's trying to apply for credit using your address and needs proof of the address?
    Or maybe she's trying to join the local library?

    editing - to sum up, I'm thinking she needs to prove she lives at your house rather than trying to inveigle extra rights.
    I think the scary form might be a bit drastic at this point! I'll ask that she changes 'tenant' to 'lodger' on the form she's left me and so long as she does that will sign and date.
  • clutton_2
    clutton_2 Posts: 11,149 Forumite
    ""Not a problem in the summer but in the winter it can't continue. ""

    what do you want to happen in the winter ?

    if she is unemployed and possibly in receipt of benefits for housing, i would sign absolutely nothing at all.... you do not know why she wants this document with your signature on it.

    if someone in authority wants proof that she lives there, ask that THEY write to you and then you can reply directly.... That way you can appear to be very cooperative without committing yourself to something with an unknown consequence.....
  • blued
    blued Posts: 698 Forumite
    clutton wrote: »
    ""Not a problem in the summer but in the winter it can't continue. ""

    what do you want to happen in the winter ?

    if she is unemployed and possibly in receipt of benefits for housing, i would sign absolutely nothing at all.... you do not know why she wants this document with your signature on it.

    if someone in authority wants proof that she lives there, ask that THEY write to you and then you can reply directly.... That way you can appear to be very cooperative without committing yourself to something with an unknown consequence.....
    Well during the winter unless she is employed or prepared to pay the cost of the heating being on all day long she'll have to find alternative accommodation. It just wont be worth having a lodger in those circumstances. She told us she was temping and gave us the impression she would be working but that is not the case.

    I think what you suggest about getting whoever it is to write to me is the best option. Assuming she is applying for a bank account would it be reasonable to expect the bank to write to me? I dont want to seem like I'm being awkward.
  • clutton_2
    clutton_2 Posts: 11,149 Forumite
    ""I dont want to seem like I'm being awkward. "

    there is no need to feel awkward... you are taking a stranger into your home and are entitled to make enquiries and take up references....

    just say to her "please get "whoever" to write to me directly and I will be happy to respond directly "and then walk away
  • blued
    blued Posts: 698 Forumite
    I was thinking I could give her a revised version of the letter. It is just a few sentences.

    To whom it may concern,

    LANDLORD DECLARATION LETTER - Confirmation of [STRIKE]Tenancy[/STRIKE] Lodging

    This is to inform you that [name] is a paying [STRIKE]tenant[/STRIKE] lodger at my property,

    Address

    and has been living at the above address from [date]

    Regards,
    Me

    I'll then say that if anything further is required the bank can write to me directly and I'll be happy to supply what they need. I'll also put todays date on this letter!
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