Out of work, psych appointment prevents proper full time work. Thoughts appreciated.

purplefiona

Rockporkchop wrote: »

To be honest I doubt that any employer looking for a full time 9-5 type employee would agree to you attending a weekly appointment which took up the whole of Wednesday morning. It would annoy the other staff too much for a start and open a can of worms.

You could look for other reception jobs with different hours, like the evening shift. Or part time, as you said. Or maybe as you are such a loyal and long standing client, your therapist would consider an out of hours appointment, rather than an appointment which hampers your ability to find employment and move on with your life.

1. I can change the appointment form 10.45 to 9 am, and thats it, and I am totally happy to do that, and I told them that.
2. I can't change it to outside office hours.
3. Could you please tell me how to "move on with my life" please? Thanks.

Googlewhacker

purplefiona wrote: »

oh well excuse me for asking for help- obviously this is the wrong place to ask.
Its not TIME OFF- like a holiday
its a MEDICAL APPOINTMENT
and I can easily make up the time.- 0 you know, like working extra/other hours
Do you think that a disabled person in a wheelchair would be denied their therapeutic appointments (assuming they could make up the time)
or would they be told to choose between their therapy or a job?

And FYI if my therapy takes 3 years or 3 minutes none of you know what the problem(s) is/are so butt out!

Did I ask about my therapy and my relationship with my therapist? or did I ask about what kind of job I should be going for? The latter, I think.

No wonder so many people who could work are signed off work permanently with this type of attitude prevalent amongst the general population.

I despair.

Do you blame employers though that advertise a job with certain hours, give the job to someone and then get told, 'ah well those hours you said they are, well I can't do some of them at that time' who then take the job offer back.

Yes they should make reasonable adjustments but if the hours are set they I would have thought be easily able to say that this is not one of those cases.

Keep applying for jobs, keep being honest and try for jobs that are likely to be flexible in hours.

Gleeful

purplefiona wrote: »

oh well excuse me for asking for help- obviously this is the wrong place to ask.
Its not TIME OFF- like a holiday
its a MEDICAL APPOINTMENT
and I can easily make up the time.- 0 you know, like working extra/other hours
Do you think that a disabled person in a wheelchair would be denied their therapeutic appointments (assuming they could make up the time)
or would they be told to choose between their therapy or a job?

And FYI if my therapy takes 3 years or 3 minutes none of you know what the problem(s) is/are so butt out!

Did I ask about my therapy and my relationship with my therapist? or did I ask about what kind of job I should be going for? The latter, I think.

No wonder so many people who could work are signed off work permanently with this type of attitude prevalent amongst the general population.

I despair.

I'm sorry, I obviously hit a raw nerve. You aren't disabled though. If the reason why you need therapy classes you as disabled, then you need to state this on your applications and then you'd be covered by the DDA!

Butting out now...but in response to your question, maybe applying for a job that won't require you to work during your therapy appointment would be a plan?

purplefiona

Googlewhacker wrote: »

I'm getting the vibe of sarcasm but to answer your question on your covering letter I would have the sentance.

whilst I do have an appointment at 10am every wednesday for two hours for a medical appointment that I have had for the last three years I am more than capable to work these extra hours through the week to make up for this loss of time. With other jobs (presuming you have had jobs during this time) this has not been a problem and my quality of work has not suffered.

Or something similar which maybe a bit more to the point.

Thanks.
I've got something along those lines in my CV now, to be completely upfront, and thats almost word for word what I put in the explanation email to Populous- backed up by previous employers- I just hope that people can read it and believe it!

Seriously I'm never going to take "Office Angels" advice ever again...my gut feeling was to talk about it in interview- I've held interviews and would have expected it to mentioned. Silly people. Silly me for listening.

Thanks for your help x

Person_one

I don't think its the place of anyone here to question whether the OP should be going to her appointments or to urge her to stop an ongoing course of medical treatment.

OP, I think reception/admin may not be a great fit as it tends to be 9-5. Why don't you go to a different agency that offers a wider range of roles and see what they can do for you.

purplefiona

Gleeful wrote: »

I'm sorry, I obviously hit a raw nerve. You aren't disabled though. If the reason why you need therapy classes you as disabled, then you need to state this on your applications and then you'd be covered by the DDA!

Butting out now...but in response to your question, maybe applying for a job that won't require you to work during your therapy appointment would be a plan?

Its OK I think I am very moody today. I do hate being out of work.

ooh yes I know but... what job would that be- I mean- maybe warehouse? I'm kind of looking for something a bit higher up than that.
I don't feel disabled- I do tick the disability box though because depression as severe as when it was first diagnosed (ten years back) is classed as a disability. Its mainly controlled- I am mainly quite normal apart from needing loads of sleep.

Perhaps I am not normal. God how awful. Perhaps I am really one of those people who can't have a (decent) job. Shame I can't work in catering really- (milk/nuts allergy) fork lift licence might be the way to go.

Gleeful

purplefiona wrote: »

Its OK I think I am very moody today. I do hate being out of work.

ooh yes I know but... what job would that be- I mean- maybe warehouse? I'm kind of looking for something a bit higher up than that.
I don't feel disabled- I do tick the disability box though because depression as severe as when it was first diagnosed (ten years back) is classed as a disability. Its mainly controlled- I am mainly quite normal apart from needing loads of sleep.

Perhaps I am not normal. God how awful. Perhaps I am really one of those people who can't have a (decent) job. Shame I can't work in catering really- (milk/nuts allergy) fork lift licence might be the way to go.

You appear to have a degree? What in?

I think perhaps if you were working, the therapy appointment could be prioritised further down the list, for starters. Doing something structured and constructive with your days really can make a difference.

purplefiona

Person_one wrote: »

I don't think its the place of anyone here to question whether the OP should be going to her appointments or to urge her to stop an ongoing course of medical treatment.

OP, I think reception/admin may not be a great fit as it tends to be 9-5. Why don't you go to a different agency that offers a wider range of roles and see what they can do for you.

Thanks. I hear what you are saying- I think I went for reception because thats what basically I've been doing for the past 3 years, obviously in a remarkable company with extremely advanced HRM policies. Incidentally did I mention I've studied HRM, hence knowledge.

Clearly this type of company is far far rarer than I thought.
I am way too weary and miserable to continue self-employed or that would be an option.

I have signed up with various 3rd sector companies, and perhaps when the DSS stuff comes through they will be able to point me in the right direction.

Wracking my brain for out-of-hours jobs that might fit.

DVardysShadow

purplefiona wrote: »

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And FYI if my therapy takes 3 years or 3 minutes none of you know what the problem(s) is/are so butt out!

Did I ask about my therapy and my relationship with my therapist? or did I ask about what kind of job I should be going for? The latter, I think.

No wonder so many people who could work are signed off work permanently with this type of attitude prevalent amongst the general population.

I despair.

Anything you post is up for comment. If you really want to get back into work, you should consider all comments and your relationship with your therapist. It seems to me that your therapy is hindering your entry to the workplace more than the attitude of posters here is - and I include myself.

You are noticeably defensive of the relationship with the therapist. I would say that if you want to work, you need to come up with a plan to complete the therapy. It needs to have an end point and you need to make this expectation clear to the therapist.

Try it. Resent me and my comments as much as you like, but tell your therapist that you need to complete the therapy and how is he or she going to get you to that point. And have a good hard look at the answers you get. It could be a turning point.

purplefiona

Gleeful wrote: »

You appear to have a degree? What in?

I think perhaps if you were working, the therapy appointment could be prioritised further down the list, for starters. Doing something structured and constructive with your days really can make a difference.

HND. Jewellery Silversmithing and Allied Crafts.
First Aid certificate.
Advanced Excel, and MS Office.
Adobe Flash with ActionScript 3.
CIPD membership and shortly, CPP.
10+years experience in jewellery, manufacturing, retail and charity sectors.

See? You can be as qualified as you like..... if you can't do 9-5 its tough, isn't it.

I can't leave therapy- yet- ok? I just can't. And I'm SO NOT talking about why and what its for on here. So- the therapy appointment stands.

I don't need to STOP therapy- I need to START having employment.