Family drama - scared for my Sister.

mikey72

Person_one wrote: »

I'm alarmed at the fact that he tried to get in through your nephew's window! How old is your nephew? How incredibly alarming for a child to have to deal with an angry grown man trying to get in his bedroom window in the dead of night, its the stuff of nightmares! I hope the poor boy isn't too traumatised.

Probably not, he's 16, and he's known him for 2 years.

edit, make that 7 years out of the past 9.

Person_one

mikey72 wrote: »

Probably not, he's 16, and he's known him for 2 years.

edit, make that 7 years out of the past 9.

OP said the oldest was 16, we don't know if it was that nephew.

I think being rudely awoken by someone trying to get in your window, and clearly being aggressive about it, is scary whatever your age and however long you'd known the person. Remember there's a volatile history between mum and this man, its not like its his dad or loved stepdad who's forgotten his key!

pretzelnut

He was on private property attempting to break and enter that property whilst at the same time causing crimal damage and a possible breach of the peace.

Their are independant witnesses to back up your sisters story. The police will have seen straight through him, hence why they arent pressing charges against your sister.

I imagine it would be really hard for a little woman to push a big bloke of a ladder, especially when you have to squeeze a hand through the window and try and shove the ladder / bloke back.

Its his own fault for being up the ladder, if he hadnt of attempted to break in - he now wouldnt have a broken pelvis.

I doubt he'll learn his lesson though, so she needs to seek legal advice about obtaining some sort of restraing order.

I even doubt he would be able to make a claim against her, after all he would have to have a bloody good reason for being up a ladder at 2am in the morning in the dark, plus the fact that he was drunk would more than likely invalidate any claim he makes.

mikey72

princesswoo wrote: »

He was on private property attempting to break and enter that property whilst at the same time causing crimal damage and a possible breach of the peace.

Their are independant witnesses to back up your sisters story. The police will have seen straight through him, hence why they arent pressing charges against your sister.

I imagine it would be really hard for a little woman to push a big bloke of a ladder, especially when you have to squeeze a hand through the window and try and shove the ladder / bloke back.

Its his own fault for being up the ladder, if he hadnt of attempted to break in - he now wouldnt have a broken pelvis.

I doubt he'll learn his lesson though, so she needs to seek legal advice about obtaining some sort of restraing order.

I even doubt he would be able to make a claim against her, after all he would have to have a bloody good reason for being up a ladder at 2am in the morning in the dark, plus the fact that he was drunk would more than likely invalidate any claim he makes.

He lived there, and it's very easy to push off someone by opening the window outwards into him. He also sustained major injuries.
Rights and wrongs don't matter, legal advice is needed as he may have a claim.

xmaslolly76

mikey72 wrote: »

He lived there, and it's very easy to push off someone by opening the window outwards into him. He also sustained major injuries.
Rights and wrongs don't matter, legal advice is needed as he may have a claim.

Well that would just show how screwed up our legal system is. He had lived there but wasnt living there at the time of the incident so had no rights of entry. If what you say was the case i could break into any home i have prevously lived at because i felt like it i dont think the new residents or the police would see it like that. Yes it would be easy to push someone off a ladder but OP has independant witneses who saw what happened and the fact she didnt push him and she wasnt opening the window towards him she was trying to close it towards her so he couldnt get in and he wrenched the safety catches trying to stop her from doing so and lost his balance. Now obviousely we dont know exactly what happened but going by the op's post if we take it as gospel i cant see how he has any claim against her.

Blade26

Well its going from bad to worse, it has now been discovered that he has fractured his neck as well. He's rung my sister this morning blathering on about how much he loves her blah blah blah, the truth being that he has nowhere to go when he gets discharged from hospital so he's looking for a carer. She's told him again that she's not interested, and to not ring her again, and that she will be speaking to the police abut pressing charges against him - cue a huge rant again about how much he hates her etc, funny as only moments before he was declaring his love.

I appreciate all your posts, it is a funny old world we live in, and she is going to speak to her insurance about it all, and get legal advice.

She's been out this morning and has discovered in dragging th ladders from the back of the house to the front he has scraped the side of her car from bonnet to boot down to the metal, so thats just added to the long list of damage that needs sorting. Thankfully, she isn't feeling any sympathy for him, which was my biggest fear (but I guess there is still time) and why should she he's brought it all on himself by being a selfish drunk who won't listen when people say no, perhaps his enforced stay in hospital will make him think about what he's done.

My nephew is fine, the fact that he knows him is irrelevant he wasn't to know when he heard someone at his bedroom window in the early hours that it was him rather than a stranger, I would imagine anyone would be frightened by it. He's supposed to be leaving home in Septemebr to go to a college where he will be in residential accommodation and now he is thinking twice because he doesnt want to leave his Mum after all this, this makes me

Blade26

mikey72

Blade26 wrote: »

Well its going from bad to worse, it has now been discovered that he has fractured his neck as well. He's rung my sister this morning blathering on about how much he loves her blah blah blah, the truth being that he has nowhere to go when he gets discharged from hospital so he's looking for a carer. She's told him again that she's not interested, and to not ring her again, and that she will be speaking to the police abut pressing charges against him - cue a huge rant again about how much he hates her etc, funny as only moments before he was declaring his love.

I appreciate all your posts, it is a funny old world we live in, and she is going to speak to her insurance about it all, and get legal advice.

She's been out this morning and has discovered in dragging th ladders from the back of the house to the front he has scraped the side of her car from bonnet to boot down to the metal, so thats just added to the long list of damage that needs sorting. Thankfully, she isn't feeling any sympathy for him, which was my biggest fear (but I guess there is still time) and why should she he's brought it all on himself by being a selfish drunk who won't listen when people say no, perhaps his enforced stay in hospital will make him think about what he's done.

My nephew is fine, the fact that he knows him is irrelevant he wasn't to know when he heard someone at his bedroom window in the early hours that it was him rather than a stranger, I would imagine anyone would be frightened by it. He's supposed to be leaving home in Septemebr to go to a college where he will be in residential accommodation and now he is thinking twice because he doesnt want to leave his Mum after all this, this makes me

Blade26

You definately need legal representation.

Contact your (her) insurance, and speak to them.
If it's not covered (should be) try to find a free half hour, or consider paying.
It isn't going to be good, and she's bound to feel sympathy, so pass it to a solicitor to handle. Don't get too involved, or you will become the one that everyone will take it out on.

mountainofdebt

If he has broken a vertebra in his neck then he won't be going anywhere, anytime soon.

pigpen

depends which vertebra and how bad.. my brother broke 4 in a motor bike accident and had an op to wire them together and was on his feet in less than 2 weeks.. after they had sorted his ankle that was shattered.

mikey72

Broken pelvis
Broken hip
Broken neck.

Won't be out jogging again soon.