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Reference for ex-employee

BASSETT
BASSETT Posts: 146 Forumite
Dilemma........ ex employee of almost a year left 4 months ago, giving 24hrs notice despite contract stating 1 month required.
Glad she went to be honest, too much changing shift, time off, finish early etc. Since her departure I`ve found out she`s been bad mouthing me, claiming underpaid wages, refusing her time off and other various nonsense.
Her family and surrounding neighbours now ignore me in the street, confused...
Gave her a glowing reference to get a house for her and small child...before she left obviously.
Have now received reference request from national multi million pound organisation that she left to go to.
Do I ignore it? Or give a true and honest reference?
Been taken for a mug once too often.

Can I suggest they ask her other previous employers? (Who she also left on bad terms)
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  • mountainofdebt
    mountainofdebt Posts: 7,795 Forumite
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    Is this the one that almost took you to an ET ? Or have I got it confused with someone else?

    If you don't feel comfortable in giving a true reference then I don't think I could give one and would ignore it.
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  • Googlewhacker
    Googlewhacker Posts: 3,887 Forumite
    BASSETT wrote: »
    Dilemma........ ex employee of almost a year left 4 months ago, giving 24hrs notice despite contract stating 1 month required.
    Glad she went to be honest, too much changing shift, time off, finish early etc. Since her departure I`ve found out she`s been bad mouthing me, claiming underpaid wages, refusing her time off and other various nonsense.
    Her family and surrounding neighbours now ignore me in the street, confused...
    Gave her a glowing reference to get a house for her and small child...before she left obviously.
    Have now received reference request from national multi million pound organisation that she left to go to.
    Do I ignore it? Or give a true and honest reference?
    Been taken for a mug once too often.

    Can I suggest they ask her other previous employers? (Who she also left on bad terms)

    Check if you can but send a letter to the company stating you refuse to provide a referance for the candidate.
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  • Errata
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    All you need do is tell them when her employment started and when it finished and what her job title was. End of.
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  • Googlewhacker
    Googlewhacker Posts: 3,887 Forumite
    Errata wrote: »
    All you need do is tell them when her employment started and when it finished and what her job title was. End of.

    If the employee has said what the OP said they said they would not get a referance from me no matter what
    The Googlewhacker referance is to Dave Gorman and not to my opinion of the search engine!

    If I give you advice it is only a view and always always take professional advice before acting!!!

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  • Premier_2
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    BASSETT wrote: »
    ... Since her departure I`ve found out she`s been bad mouthing me, claiming underpaid wages, refusing her time off and other various nonsense...
    Sounds like hearsay to me.
    BASSETT wrote: »
    Her family and surrounding neighbours now ignore me in the street, confused...
    I'm confused by why you're confused. You admitted previously "Glad she went to be honest,"
    BASSETT wrote: »
    Have now received reference request from national multi million pound organisation that she left to go to.
    Do I ignore it? Or give a true and honest reference?
    Been taken for a mug once too often.
    Up to you if you want to respond.
    If you do, ensure it is true & honest. i.e. relates to facts.
    Any opinions may leave you open to litigation, especially if those opinions portray the person in a negative manner.

    Any negative comments will probably reflect more about you to the company requesting the reference, than the person they are aimed at.
    BASSETT wrote: »
    Can I suggest they ask her other previous employers? (Who she also left on bad terms)
    You could, but I certainly wouldn't recommend it.

    One wonders why you employed such a person in the first place if you knew she left the previous employers on bad terms.
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  • Can you not simply write that you decline their invitation to provide a reference? Damming, yet truthful.
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  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    Premier wrote: »
    ... One wonders why you employed such a person in the first place if you knew she left the previous employers on bad terms.
    Obviously this did not happen. OP would have discovered after taking her on. Wouldn't you think?
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  • dmg24
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    Check if you can but send a letter to the company stating you refuse to provide a referance for the candidate.

    On the information given, I would go for this option. Silence implies that you are a lazy employer, a written refusal to provide a reference speaks volumes (but creates no potential liability for falsehoods).
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  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    Can you not simply write that you decline their invitation to provide a reference? Damming, yet truthful.
    Go in slightly harder!

    Dear <reference seeker>

    I acknowledge your request for a reference on <former employee> and I am rather surprised that she should offer my name as a referee. <former employee> worked here from <start date> giving notice on <notice date> of leaving on <finish date>. Beyond this information I have nothing to say in favour of <former employee>'s application for employment with yourselves.

    Yours sincerely

    <referee>
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  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    dmg24 wrote: »
    On the information given, I would go for this option. Silence implies that you are a lazy employer, a written refusal to provide a reference speaks volumes (but creates no potential liability for falsehoods).
    There is this myth going around that a former employer is 'not allowed to give a bad reference'. The basis of this is that there is, I believe, a legal requirement to provide a minimal reference confirming dates of employment.
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