landlord responsibilities - cooker

chickywiggle

hi all,
hope this is the right place..........

We rent through a letting agency, on Monday (just as I was cooking my DS's tea) the heating element in the cooker died.

DH rang the agency/ landlord (landlord actually owns the agency co-incidently) to let him know 1st thing TUESDAY am. We were advised that the cooker was very old and it wasn't surprising it had gone. It is a built in cooker, the ignition on the hob died over a year ago and has never been replaced despite 2 'experts' looking at it - we can light it but only with a manual lighter (anyway thats a differnt story).

Landlord said he's replace the entire cooker and would ring us to let us know when will be delivered. He rang today (THURSDAY) to say NEXT WEDNESDAY for delivery. then we have to ring him and he will come over and install it.

Luckily we have a George Forman, fryer and slow cooker but is it acceptable for him to leave us with no cooker for over a week??

We are going to have to go out tomorrow and buy food that we can cook out of the oven (a bit tricky when DH eats no veg and DS is only 20 month old). OR live on take away and sandwiches. Is it wrong of us to ask him for some form of compensation??

TBH I am sick of fryer chips.

Any help, preferably from someone who deals with landlord legal responsibilities.

ormus

1. are you sure a working cooker is part of the lease?
2.you have to give a landlord reasonable time to fix and replace broken items.

there is no sure legal definition of "reasonable".
only a judge can decide that.

mikey72

Most white goods take over a week to deliver now, so it doesn't seem too bad.
You can still cook on the hob, so I wouldn't think compensation could be demanded if the landlord didn't agree.


edit - to amswer ormus's question, some form of cooking facility is required, and if the house came with a hob and cooker that would need to be maintained, but as one is still working, it would be hard to say otherwise.

chickywiggle

ormus wrote: »

1. are you sure a working cooker is part of the lease?
2.you have to give a landlord reasonable time to fix and replace broken items.

there is no sure legal definition of "reasonable".
only a judge can decide that.

I would expect a fitted cooker that came as part of the contract of the house to be in working condition yes.

You can still cook on the hob

could I have some suggestions then please??

phill99

There are a wide range of food sfuffs available other than oven chips.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

chickywiggle wrote: »

I would expect a fitted cooker that came as part of the contract of the house to be in working condition yes.

Unfortunately things break.

Your only argument is whether its a reasonable enough time for it to get replaced.

Personally I am of the opinion 7 days as a time frame is acceptable.

But I only speak for myself.

ormus

just because an item is in place doesnt mean its part of any contract/lease.
i know a case where the CH boiler broke down.
when the renter wanted it fixed the landlord told him it wasnt part of the lease.
when the renter checked, that was indeed the case.

and there is no legal requirement to supply CH either.

baldelectrician

ormus wrote: »

and there is no legal requirement to supply CH either.

there is in Scotland- it falls within the minimum tolerable standard (either adequalte gas or electric heating)


If the heating is there then it ust be maintained- the rights of the tenant can not be removed by the lease

mikey72

chickywiggle wrote: »

I would expect a fitted cooker that came as part of the contract of the house to be in working condition yes.


could I have some suggestions then please??

http://www.caravan-advice.co.uk/easy-recipes.html

LittleMissAspie

chickywiggle wrote: »

could I have some suggestions then please??

1. Quiche and salad (you don't have to cook quiches from the supermarket though they do taste better if you do)
2. Beans and cheese on toast or on bread if you don't have a toaster
3. Soup and crusty bread
4. Fajitas
5. Chili with rice
6. Spaghetti bolognaise
7. Omelette

That's a week of dinners all off the top of my head and with minimal use of veg.

ormus

baldelectrician wrote: »

there is in Scotland- it falls within the minimum tolerable standard (either adequalte gas or electric heating)


If the heating is there then it ust be maintained- the rights of the tenant can not be removed by the lease

no idea about scottish law.
the english law is very wooly. it says summat like minimum standards without stating plainly what they are.
ie a form of heating or a means of heating the house. which in effect means an electric socket is good enough. for an electric fire.

or an open fire for a coal fire.