Long life milk question

LearningToSave.

jcr16 wrote:

WOW can u. oh i'm gonna look for this. i would love to have a couple of boxes as standby. why is it i always run out of whole milk in middle of night when kids wakes up and are desperate for a bottle.and i can't get to shop till morning. thankyou thriftlady

i know in asda the colours of the boxes are the same as the caps on fresh milk if that makes sense? green for semi,blue for whole,red for skimmed.....i think its the same in the other supermarkets too.

thriftlady_2

Yep, it's the same in Tesco and Waitrose. I use the semi-skimmed for making yogurt.

devlinder

thriftlady wrote:

Jcr's right children under 5 should not have skimmed milk, they need the fat in either semi-skimmed or whole. I think toddlers should have whole.

I'm sorry I don't believe that full-fat milk is any good for anyone and giving children full-fat milk is an old wives tale. Babies may look healthier because they are fatter, but fatter doesn't mean healthier. The more fat, the more cholesterol, and more cholesterol means more problems in the long term.

seraphina

devlinder wrote:

I'm sorry I don't believe that full-fat milk is any good for anyone and giving children full-fat milk is an old wives tale. Babies may look healthier because they are fatter, but fatter doesn't mean healthier. The more fat, the more cholesterol, and more cholesterol means more problems in the long term.

Children need the extra calories, but the major benefit is in the fat soluble vitamins, of which whole milk is full of. Skimmed and semiskimmed milk has less fat, and therefore proportionally less fat-soluble vitamins.

The fats are also essential for proper absorption of some vitamins. The fat in whole milk is absolutely essential for normal brain development.

Your statement about the more fat, the more cholesterol is wrong.

LearningToSave.

thriftlady wrote:

Yep, it's the same in Tesco and Waitrose. I use the semi-skimmed for making yogurt.

hehe same here............green for yogurt,red for me and hubby and now it'll be blue for kids!!!

Gers

devlinder wrote:

I'm sorry I don't believe that full-fat milk is any good for anyone and giving children full-fat milk is an old wives tale. Babies may look healthier because they are fatter, but fatter doesn't mean healthier. The more fat, the more cholesterol, and more cholesterol means more problems in the long term.

Facts are:

Milk and milk products also contain fat. The NDNS also shows that milk and milk products contribute 19% of total fat intake and 24% of saturates intake in the UK. The amount of fat varies depending on the type of milk product.

Fat can be removed from milk to produce different types of milk. Milk is available as whole milk, semi-skimmed milk or skimmed milk. The fat content of these varies:

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Whole milk contains 3.9g fat per 100ml,
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Semi-skimmed milk provides 1.7g fat per 100ml
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Skimmed milk provides 0.2g fat per 100ml
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1% milk, a blend of skimmed and semi-skimmed milk has recently become available and contains 1g fat/100ml or less.

Click here for the link to British Nutrition website

devlinder

seraphina wrote:

Children need the extra calories, but the major benefit is in the fat soluble vitamins, of which whole milk is full of. Skimmed and semiskimmed milk has less fat, and therefore proportionally less fat-soluble vitamins.

The fats are also essential for proper absorption of some vitamins. The fat in whole milk is absolutely essential for normal brain development.

Your statement about the more fat, the more cholesterol is wrong.

Vitamins are essential nutrients your body needs in small amounts for various roles in the human body. Vitamins are divided into two groups: water-soluble (B-complex and C) and fat-soluble (A, D, E and K). Unlike water-soluble vitamins that need regular replacement in the body, fat-soluble vitamins are stored in the liver and fatty tissues, and are eliminated much more slowly than water-soluble vitamins.


Because fat-soluble vitamins are stored for long periods, they generally pose a greater risk for toxicity than water-soluble vitamins when consumed in excess. Eating a normal, well-balanced diet will not lead to toxicity in otherwise healthy individuals. However, taking vitamin supplements that contain mega doses of vitamins A, D, E and K may lead to toxicity. Remember, the body only needs small amounts of any vitamin.

http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/foodnut/09315.html

**purpleprincess**

I'm sure the question the OP posted was - is longlife milk ok for children!! :rolleyes:

seraphina

devlinder wrote:

Because fat-soluble vitamins are stored for long periods, they generally pose a greater risk for toxicity than water-soluble vitamins when consumed in excess. Eating a normal, well-balanced diet will not lead to toxicity in otherwise healthy individuals. However, taking vitamin supplements that contain mega doses of vitamins A, D, E and K may lead to toxicity. Remember, the body only needs small amounts of any vitamin.

http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/foodnut/09315.html

You are forgetting that the needs of infants and toddlers are hugely different from the needs of grown adults - the needs of children and teenagers are different again. The vast majority of brain development occurs in the first few years of life; hence using full fat milk to provide appropriate amounts of vitamins is essential. Whole milk also provides appropriate ratios of vitamins - for example, fat-soluble vitamin D is essential for absorption of calcium - decrease the amount of fat (and therefore vitaminD) and the amount of calcium that can be absorbed decreases.

Milk is also a vital source of calories for fussy toddlers, and is the only source of calories for infants.

The amounts in full fat milk are ideal for an infant's needs and in a totally different amount than what you would find in a vitamin pill.

thriftlady_2

With a fat content of 3.9 % I don't believe whole milk is a high fat food.

My babies were fed on full-fat breast milk and full-fat cow's milk and were never fat and aren't now aged 6, 9 and 11.

You would have to be drinking an awful lot of milk for it's fat content to make a significant impact on your diet.