Budget - tougher for DLA claimants

jenniewb

I am confused by this- really confused. As far as I was aware, Incapacity Benefit was the benefit you were given if you were unable to work through ill health. DLA was there to support you if you were sick and you were able to work and get DLA as many people who are disabled do infact work. The DLA can therefor be used for things like transport, Councelling/Therapy, long term physio, equipment and various other required things.

I am reading in the paper/hearing on the news "DLA is only going to be awarded to those unfit to work". This is confusing as I know those who work, all be it part time reduced activities but the DLA helps them to work.

I can see many lives falling to pieces without the financial support to help them go about their lives and work or voluntary work. I think the scare-mongering needs to change as I have quite a few friends wrapped up in total anxiety over this- a part of their mental health conditions yes but it does not help and both the media and conservative party should know better, there are many people with depression and anxiety issues who get DLA and the more negative mindset and irrational behavior makes it a big risk to report things like this.

Yes those who are honesty ill will (apparently) still get DLA but if your already saddled with a negative mindset your not going to believe that anyone will hear or understand what you say and that as a result you will lose out: a side effect of being mentally ill is lack of confidence in yourself and lack of trust in others to listen or believe you.

I'd agree with the above- how to the know there are 10% or whatever % who will be cut? how do they know that many are false claimants? it makes me worry that cases will not be listened to and viewed with any consciousness but more "we need to cut numbers and fast". Makes me wonder how many honest claims will infact lose out as a result.

Worrying.

System

richard9991 wrote: »

low mobility is awarded for supervision for ppl who get scared/panic attacks in places that are unfamiliar.

Exactly. And there are those of us who wander into traffic, get confused, try and kill ourselves, hear voices etc. If he'd like to leave us unsupervised i'd be happy to let him pick up the pieces

Indie_Kid

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

Exactly. And there are those of us who wander into traffic, get confused, try and kill ourselves, hear voices etc. If he'd like to leave us unsupervised i'd be happy to let him pick up the pieces

Which is going to cost much more than £18.95. (the current low mobility rate per week)

jenniewb

TBH I am wondering if they care- the cack-handed way they have gone about it, its seriosuly worried people and really is not helpful at all. Its all up in the air with cuts but no figures as yet. I want to believe they want to help people but all I am hearing is "cut this, cut that" with no realisation as to what effects this brings to peoples emotional state.

People who scam the system, lie and defraud will do so anyway, they'll find a way. Its those that are open and honest (and perhaps can be walked over?) who end up getting hurt. I worry as from what I see its people who are easy targits who are going to lose out here- not a complicated scam artist who has 10 dozen off-seas tax-free bank accounts and several houses who probably has a degree in lies!

GlasweJen

I'm starting to not worry about it tbh, i've got an indefinite award so will probably be one of the last in line to get the medical anyway. They'll take forever if they're going to give a medical to everyone who claims and everyone who's currently on DLA so let them get on with it, will probably cost them more than they save too, stupid tories.

deeplyblue

TOBRUK wrote: »

It also sounds that the care element is going to be hit hard, with an assessment on whether some need full time carer.

As these changes take place in 2013, we will hear a lot more detail on how and what changes will take place.

Thanks for interesting post. AAMOI, where did you get your info on the care element?

db

deeplyblue

GlasweJen wrote: »

They'll take forever if they're going to give a medical to everyone who claims and everyone who's currently on DLA so let them get on with it, will probably cost them more than they save too, stupid tories.

And that's not including the ferocious cost of tribunals, where (at the moment) 65% of appealed decisions get reversed.

BUT I don't think this is stupid at all. It's not a financial measure, and it's certainly not an attempt to make a fairer or more compassionate society.

It's all about placating the voice of the Daily Heil saying that whilst, of course, they want the "genuinely disabled" to be properly treated, all the scroungers who aren't really disabled at all should be made to suffer. What they say is, "made to get a job", but no one actually thinks that their organisation would employ someone with "a dodgy health record". They know that getting a job isn't really an option, so they simply want those who are not worthy of help to suffer. And they know how to find out who's really disabled, since all you have to do is look at them, the rest can be judged by a clerk with a tickbox form.

And there you are - if you're really disabled you'll look poor and very miserable. If you don't look poor and really miserable, then you're not disabled. So you can be taken off disability benefit and starved until you do look poor and very miserable. Simples.

Lots of happy Tory DM readers. And the Torygraph ones can think about their money being saved as well, and get positively orgasmic.

Not stupid politicians at all.

db

Flibertigibit

I asked sunnyone this on another thread but it never got answered, and I really want to know - what does s/he mean when they say that "but I had a supersession on the life time care award to high rate award and my awards now indefinate"? I just don't understand this word "supersession", so please help me someone.

GlasweJen

it means that she sent in new evidence of care/mobility needs and the decision maker granted her a different level of dla for the rest of the award period.

GlasweJen

i think the word is suppression though