Dental Treatment Abroad

Undisputedtruth

Teerah wrote:

Hi undisputed truth, you do provide some light relief. However, please follow you own advice, ie carefully reading posts. I have clearly explained why I made the comment and you may continue to show your ignorance by choosing to ignore anything that you do not personally agree with. That is up to you. Your reply infers that travel to hungary and such places is mostly due to trauma and this is, of course, a nonsense and I think you realise that or you would not continue to ignore what I have said. I am not sure what you hope to achieve by continuing with this. And yes I have replied to this again but only so other readers may understand why I have posted previously (although it was self-explanatory). Regards, teerah

I think I've given you an answer before so can't be bothered to stoop down to your level.

Best wishes

Undisputedtruth

Undisputedtruth

candyman67 wrote:

Could I suggest that next time you take a visit to a foreign shore, and let's be honest, at your rates that must be at least 3 times a year, why not pop in to a clinic there. All it needs is just a check up or a polish, nothing serious, just so you can judge for yourself their professionalism.

Interesting comment, as Teerah and Toothsmith are busy fighting for their market share and let's face their comments do have an hint of desparation then it might be sensible option to visit Hungary to see what they have on offer whilst ensuring that you take preventative measures with Dentists in the UK or abroad.

candyman67 wrote:

But with regards to the arrogent attitude of a previous poster that you should be able to charge 10 times the current amount.......... £500 to have a tooth pulled. That would have resulted in another set of teeth being broken.

I can't seem to trust the Dentist on this thread due their arrogance. Corporate greed and arrogance seems to go side by side with them.

Undisputedtruth

Kickstone

I was wondering if any body else has any details of Dentists in Hungary and a quick review if possible. I'm looking to go there quite soon as I don't think I've been that lucky with my teeth. I'm 32 and I've now had three teeth extracted, along with a six crowns and a bridge. The crowns are fine but I am thinking of getting three implants to fill the gaps. Was wondering if any body could give me some advice on where to go. The one I have been looking at is http://www.dentistabroad.co.uk/index.html. Thanks for the details candyman, I'll check that one out.
Please don't respond to my post Toothsmith.

Toothsmith

Kickstone wrote:

Please don't respond to my post Toothsmith.

Why's that then? Am I making people think a bit too much before parting with their cash and damaging your travel agency?

Interesting how many first posters on this thread seem to insert links to commercial organisations. I wonder how many are the same person with multiple registrations?

As I don't do implants, and tend to go more for preventative care, it's also quite nice to have UDB recommending my services.

It was a full moon last night though!

Kickstone

Toothsmith wrote:

Why's that then? Am I making people think a bit too much before parting with their cash and damaging your travel agency?

No, you just come across as smug, arrogant and a bit of a scaremonger. I could go into my personal views why I believe you are like this but I really don’t have the patience for a petty little argument on a notice board. I’ve come here for advice and I don’t think you have any to give, even in your professional position. You've only gone and reinforced this by assuming I run some medical travel agency, as you have done with a lot of what seem genuine people on here.
My teeth are in a bad way and I do not have the money to get the treatment done over here. I will be going over to Hungary because I have no other option. I am therefore looking for advice on who to visit. I doubt you have ever been so there really isn't much you can add, other than silly remarks which aren't beneficial to anyone.
I’ll ask again, please do not respond to my post. This post is to help people and all you are accomplishing is scaring people away from posting due to fear of being ridiculed.
Any advice from anyone who has been over to Hungary would be appreciated. Thank you.

Toothsmith

All I have really said is that if a mouth has fallen to bits, it's a bit pointless spending money on rebuilding it unless you realise why it has fallen to bits.

As treatments get more complex, the potential for real problems when it goes wrong gets greater.

All the Foreign clinics advertising for British clients just offer to rebuild mouths. Not address any of the problems that got the mouths there in the first place.

It is your money. It is your mouth.

I'm sure all the clinics are technically excellent, and are staffed by dentists for whom making money is the very last thing they want to do.

Take my advice or leave it. It is given with good grace. I do not benefit financially one way or the other.

Kickstone

I didn't say you would benefit, you just seem very negative about the whole idea. You are entitled to your opinion but you don't seem to be giving a valid argument. I agree that people should know why their mouth is falling apart. But most people aren't idiots. I know where I went wrong. I have addressed these issues but I now need to fix the problems which I admit I brought upon myself. The simple fact is I am losing teeth at a fast rate and it's either implants or dentures in the years to come. Preventative measures are no good to me now, trust me. I do everything I can to keep my teeth in good health due to a very strong sense of foreboding. I do need this work carrying out though if I wish to smile on pictures or laugh when I'm out with friends without feeling embarrassed.
I also think I am aware of the risks involved in such a complex procedure due to the locality but that's exactly why I'm on this forum asking questions. It is something I have been thinking about for a long time and it is being offered at a price that I can afford in a different country. I would like as much info as possible before I go ahead with it.
Apologies for the name calling. It wasn't my intention to offend. You do seem overly negative about it though and very eager to jump to conclusions. Believe me, if you had my teeth and my bank account I'm sure you would consider it.

camdi

This is my first post, can anyone help, I've been told that lots of British people are going to India for dental work hundreds of pounds cheaper. My husband is in desperate need of major work & I'm wondering whether a holiday to India may be a cheaper option as it will be extremely expensive in UK.

Thanks
Camdi

Toothsmith

We do seem to have started on the wrong foot!

This thread does not really bring out the best in me as there is a poster who, despite his username, speaks absolute rubbish, and I have no regrets about being rude to him!

I have my own dental practice in a small market town. I went private for adults 7 years ago, and have just stopped doing NHS stuff for kids having resigned my NHS contract when the new regime came in a couple of weeks ago. I am still quite busy enough.

The UK has only ever produced enough dentists to serve about half of the population on a regular basis - but that was OK, because that is all that ever really wanted regular care. About 15 years ago, there was enough slack in the system to cope with the other 50% who only ever wanted to see a dentist when something hurt.

Over the past 10+ years, as NHS funding has dried up, more and more dentists have gone private. In doing that, they have reduced their list sizes to a core of patients who really value the service they get, and are prepared to pay for it. Much as it may surprise people who don't value good dentistry (I don't mean you Kickstone, or anyone else directly - even UDB) those people are not just 'the rich' but a whole cross section of income ranges - even those on benefits. In fact, it is often 'the rich' who are first out of the door, into their Beemers, and off down the road to another practice still doing NHS.

Over the past few months, even more dentists are doing even less NHS. This is creating a huge rift in the status-quo of UK dentistry. the patients who have stuck with their dentists are loyal, happy and not likely to move. There is now a huge pool of people who whilst not really thinking dental treatment is worth the UK private prices, believe that good dental care can be had for what was NHS prices.

What is the relavence of all that? You ask.

Into this uncertainty, over the past few months, companies marketing dental treatment abroad have come flooding in. They appeal to, and target, people who prehaps have had difficulties in obtaining treatment in the last few years, they see a huge gap in the market. People who want 'good' treatment, but don't understand enough about what good treatment actually is. They market 'good treatment' as a final commodity, not an ongoing process.

Rarely a day goes past without some local paper having an article about George & his wife Mildred, who, having been quoted several thousand pounds to have 20 years of neglect put right in the UK, had it all done, in a few visits, in a couple of weeks in some ex eastern bloc country and it only cost a couple of hundred.

These adverts, to me, a dentist, are as misleading and dangerous as the Carol Vordaman "Consolidate your loans into one easy payment, and hey - have a new car as well"

Every MSEr knows that these adverts are B***oks. You are paying back loads more over the rest of your life. But they are there because there are enough stupid/desperate people who WANT to believe life will be easier with a Purple Loan

It is 'too good to be true'.

It is just the same for all these Hungarian & Polish ads.

If your teeth are falling to bits, it is NOT too late for preventative dentistry to help. If the situation in your mouth is not stable before you start this treatment, the treatment WILL FAIL. It may take a few years, but it will. When it does, you will be worse off than before you started, it will be more expensive to fix, and your options will be much more limited with less good teeth for support.

I have conceeded in previous posts on this thread, with relation to SAZ, the OP, that in certain, very carefully considered circumstances, someone might be able to make this work for them. But the risks are high, especially in countries with very loose regulation. A plasma TV on the waiting room wall is fine. I'd want to see the cross infection control protocol though. It may be fine, but who checks up on it? Is it worth the money saved?

Do you have a UK dentist Kickstone? What is his/her suggestion for what you do?

I am sure a proper long term treatment/care plan tailored to your pocket will suit you much better in the long term.

Nile

Hello camdi


Welcome to the MSE site.:wave:

I'll move your thread over to the 'Health MoneySaving' board, where it should get more views and responses.

Hi, Martin’s asked me to post this in these circumstances: I’ve asked Board Guides to move threads if they’ll receive a better response elsewhere(please see this rule) so this post/thread has been moved to another board, where it should get more replies. If you have any questions about this policy please email [email="abuse@moneysavingexpert.com"]abuse@moneysavingexpert.com[/email].

Regards

Nile