Paypal/Gumtree Scam?

gunsandbanjos

Also, should she be on the lookout for recorded/special delivery packages that probably contain paper so the seller has a tracking number to give paypal, or does it not work like that off ebay?

preable

I recived a peice of paper once saying lady gaga on it was expecting tickets. What i did was take a photo before i opened the package and then one after showing the contents and gave them to paypal and ebay. Won my case

vickypark3

They didn't want to pay in full upfront in case they were not genuine tickets so asked the seller if they could pay half up front and half when they received the tickets. He said that was fine.

Hopefully paypal will overlook that the item has not been paid for in one payment and your friend will get a refund.....as the UA states

13.2 What are the eligibility requirements for PayPal Buyer Protection?

Pay the full amount of the eligible item in one payment. Items purchased with multiple payments – like a deposit followed by a final payment – are not eligible;


https://cms.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/marketingweb?cmd=_render-content&content_ID=ua/BuyerProtection_full&locale.x=en_GB#13.%20PayPal%20Buyer%20Protection

If paypal do not refund and the payment was funded with a credit /VISA debit card your friend could ask them to issue a chargeback

gunsandbanjos

vickypark3 wrote: »

Hopefully paypal will overlook that the item has not been paid for in one payment and your friend will get a refund.....as the UA states

She paid the full amount that was on the invoice i believe, but was obviously only invoiced for half the total amount.

Her paypal account is linked to a Visa debit card as i did wonder whether a chargeback would be possible as it was over £100, thought it was only for credit cards though?

vickypark3

See the info in the link...although it would be best to check with the card issuer as the info may no longer apply

http://whatconsumer.co.uk/visa-debit-chargeback/?gclid=CNuS7K6RrKICFVWY2Aod7WmCRw

gunsandbanjos

Just a little update. Spoke to my friend at work yesterday and she had an email from paypal saying they had found in her favour and she would be getting her money back:beer:

Many thanks to all who contributed to this thread:A

soolin

Lara_Tagliamonde wrote: »

tbh as much as i like to offer pleasing advice hun, they have no fightback cos the moneys gone for good
xxx try to be cleverer next time

So you don't actually read the threads you post on then?

Vaila

GUMTREE IS FOR LOCAL BUYERS PAYING CASH ON COLLECTION.....NOT PAYPAL
!!!!s sake its obvious when selling on gumtree that if a buyers offers you to pay via paypal *usually the word nigeria is involved its a scam DONT BLOODY DO IT, YOU WONT BE PROTECTED !!!!!!!!!

Haffiana

No, the scam is that they send you a fake email from Paypal saying that you need to despatch the item in order to release the payment, or that the payment has been safely received and you can despatch the item. The 'item has not arrived' claim with Paypal would not work for a number of reasons.

soolin

ilovemymac wrote: »

I've just had exactly the same thing happen. Posted mobile phone on Gumtree and within minutes I had three replies, all initially asking if the phone was still available. After I'd told them it was all three offered £8O over the asking price to post to various friends/relatives abroad. Each time I replied that -- as stated in the listing -- it was cash on collection only. Two then adopted an aggressive tone to demand I open a PayPal account so they could pay me immediately. I again refused and one then went as far as sending me PayPal links and explaining how safe it is. Very obviously a scam.

I understand how the scam works ie they pay, then claim the item hasn't arrived and request a refund through PayPal which is then reclaimed from your account. But these things are so obvious why are PayPal not able to find away around it? I may be wrong on this but it seems in any dispute PayPal's default position is that the buyer is in the right and the seller in the wrong.

If you think the scam is a 'paypal issue' then you haven't understood how the scam works at all.

I hate the idea of anyone falling foul of these scum and urge everyone to read up on all the protection policies and to make sure they fully understand paypal.