Have been told no TC or CTC for daughter on Apprenticeship - is this right?

LMT60

I have a 17 yr old daughter who has been on the Connexions Register, and had the Child Benefit run-on, so I was receiving both TC and CTC for her. She started on an Apprenticeship (finally!) this week, and I have been told by TC that I no longer qualify for either! They said an Apprenticeship is not classed as "an approved training course". I was told by them last year that it WAS. Connexions say that it is. The CAB say that it is. The Council say it is.
Who is right?
The TC people said it only counts if the person is at college more than 12 hours per week, or the Apprenticeship is "programme led" or "Learn to Earn" (or something like that). Connexions have said ALL Apprenticeships are Programme-led, by the nature of what they are!
Someone please help, as I only have a prt time income of £570 a month without this!

sunnyone

LMT60 wrote: »

I have a 17 yr old daughter who has been on the Connexions Register, and had the Child Benefit run-on, so I was receiving both TC and CTC for her. She started on an Apprenticeship (finally!) this week, and I have been told by TC that I no longer qualify for either! They said an Apprenticeship is not classed as "an approved training course". I was told by them last year that it WAS. Connexions say that it is. The CAB say that it is. The Council say it is.
Who is right?
The TC people said it only counts if the person is at college more than 12 hours per week, or the Apprenticeship is "programme led" or "Learn to Earn" (or something like that). Connexions have said ALL Apprenticeships are Programme-led, by the nature of what they are!
Someone please help, as I only have a prt time income of £570 a month without this!

You need your daughter to top up your part time wage via benefits?

DX2

LMT60 wrote: »

I have a 17 yr old daughter who has been on the Connexions Register, and had the Child Benefit run-on, so I was receiving both TC and CTC for her. She started on an Apprenticeship (finally!) this week, and I have been told by TC that I no longer qualify for either! They said an Apprenticeship is not classed as "an approved training course". I was told by them last year that it WAS. Connexions say that it is. The CAB say that it is. The Council say it is.
Who is right?
The TC people said it only counts if the person is at college more than 12 hours per week, or the Apprenticeship is "programme led" or "Learn to Earn" (or something like that). Connexions have said ALL Apprenticeships are Programme-led, by the nature of what they are!
Someone please help, as I only have a prt time income of £570 a month without this!

If your child is aged 16 to 19 and on a training course

If your child is over 16 but under the age of 20, you can claim tax credits for them as long as they're on an approved training course and it isn’t provided by a contract of employment. Approved courses:

• don't pay wages
• teach the skills your child needs to do a job

For a training course to be approved it should be one of the following:

• England - Entry to Employment or Programme Led Apprenticeships
• Scotland - Get Ready for Work, Skillseekers or Modern Apprenticeships
• Wales - Foundation Modern Apprenticeships, Skillbuild or Skillbuild+
• Northern Ireland - Access or Training for Success: Professional and Technical Training

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/taxcredits/keep-up-to-date/changes-affect/family-change/child-16.htm

LMT60

No, I do not need her for that, but in this economic climate I have found it very hard to find a full time job at my age. I am well qualified and certainly not a benefits scrounger, but it would certainly be helpful until I CAN find a better job enabling me to pay for the luxuries like food, gas and electricity...

sarflee

It appears tax credit people are correct and you are no longer entitled to TC due to your child no longer qualifying so you need to see if you can claim any other benefits like council tax/housing benefit. Also, if your daughter now has an income, could she pay some housekeeping?

McKneff

Apprenticeships arent too badly paid these days, and of course she should be paying her way or at least contributing to it.

Look on the bright side, in the present economic climate she is extremely lucky to have got an apprenticeship.

Would you rather have more money in the coffers and have her dossing about the house or looking for work at minimum wage.

Well done to her, I hope youre proud of her.

twoheadedboy

'Programme Led Apprenticeship' is the name of an actual training course rather than a description of a type of apprenticeship. Apprenticeships do not generally qualify for Child Benefit or Tax Credits as they are usually provided by an employer and therefore classed as remunerative work; the Programme Led Apprenticeship is not an apprenticeship in the traditional sense as it is provided by a training provider rather than an employer and only a small training allowance (usually £30-40 p/w) is paid as opposed to a wage.