Dental work abroad v UK

Mark2spark

Hi, I'm starting my own thread, I'm going to copy/paste the jist of what has been said and commented on elsewhere.

The latest is that the Hungarian quote with 11 implants is still too expensive, so i'm now considering an alternative plan such as an implant supported removable denture? No price yet, will update soon as.

The previous post:
The price I have from a UK dentist, (an 'estimate' mind ) is £12+k for dentures (10) fixed to 4 implants upper, and a telescopic denture on the lower, I retain my middle 5 front teeth on the lower.

I've just had my first accurate 'quotation' from Hungary, based on no physical in person examination, but from providing a Q & A with a panoramic x-ray, it's for 11 implants, 6 upper, 5 lower, a set of 14 upper teeth ( I assume a bridge? Or 2 bridges?), and a set of 12 lower teeth, with my (real) middle 5 lower teeth crowned.
Both dentists include for root canel treatment as neccessary.

The Hungarian quote is also for £12k. Clearly it's for at least twice as much work though.
There are 3 separate visits to Hungary involved to factor in to that as well.

Mark

Mark2spark

Is there a way that I can 'put up' the panoramic xray? Or ideed the hungarian quote with the pictures of the xray and highlighted stages of the proposals? (I think it's quite professional?)
Cheers, Mark

welshdent

scan them an use image hosting? I saved an article in the mail on sundays magazine last sunday. It was a bit of self advertising for an implantologist ... but it DOES explain neatly the problems and pit falls of going going abroad. His self advertising was that he runs a service where he will assess your mouth and suggested treatment plans and say if he thinks the plan is reasonable. I can PM you his site if you want. It was IMO a well written article even if it was self promotion.

Toothsmith

And the dentist involved has been up before the GDC in the past on implant-related issues!

welshdent

I wasnt aware of that sorry! Oops!

brook2jack

This is one of the advantages of having work done in the UK. You can look the dentist up in the GDC register ,check their specialist qualifications and check if they have had any GDC rulings against them.

This is a facility available easily to the general public on line.

coldstreamalways

Yes, he has restrictions to do with advice, teaching and sinus lifts. Tut tut!

andrei

To be honest Mark, unless implants won't work due to poor bone density, a removable denture will be a handicap which you'll have to live with.

Dental Treatment Abroad

Mark2spark

Hi, i've experimented with trying to put up the treatment plan and costings, including the panoramic x-ray, with superimposed implants, but can't get the pictures up, just the text, so i'm going to copy & paste here, it might become a bit of a long post but it might be useful to someone.

Clinic: The Implant and Aesthetic Center, Budapest

Dentist: Dr Attila Kaman MD DDS

Quotation Valid Until: 31/07/2010

Analysis

The upper teeth are weak and heavily
treated and will need to be removed. These
teeth and the missing premolars and
molars can be replaced with dental
implants.

Time Required Until Next Visit
Price Breakdown

Treatment Schedule

Day 1:

Root canal treatment, temporary crown fitting, extractions,
impression taking

Day 3: Temporary denture and long term temporary crown fitting

Item Count Cost/Item Cost

Build Up: Buildup With
Post

2 £70 £140

Crown: Long Term
Temporary Cowns / Piece

2 £60 £120

Denture: Temporary
Denture

14 £22 £310

Extraction: Simple Tooth
Extraction

10 £42 £420

Root Treatment: Root
Canal Filling / 1 Rooted
Tooth

2 £69 £138

Total: £1128

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Visit 1

Item Location

Build Up: Buildup With
Post

LR4 , LR3

Crown: Long Term
Temporary Cowns /
Piece

LR3 , LR4

Denture: Temporary
Denture

UR6 , UR4 ,
UL5 , UL2 , UL7 ,
UR7 , UR3 ,
UL3 , UL4 , UL6 ,
UR5 , UR2 ,
UR1 , UL1

Extraction: Simple
Tooth Extraction

UL5 , UR3 ,
UR6 , UL1 ,
UR1 , LL4 , UL3 ,
UR4 , UL6 , UR2

Root Treatment: Root
Canal Filling / 1 Rooted
Tooth

LR4 , LR3

2 months.

Notes
Time Required Until Next Visit
Price Breakdown

Treatment Schedule

Day 1: Implant placing

Day 2: Check up

Item Count Cost/Item Cost

Abutment: AB Screw
Retained Abutment

11 £200 £2200

Implant: AB Implant 11 £399 £4389

Total: £6589

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Visit 2

Item Location

Abutment: AB Screw
Retained Abutment

UL4 , UR4 , UR2 ,
UL5 , UR5 , LR6 ,
UL2 , LL4 , LL5 ,
LL6 , LR5

Implant: AB Implant

UR5 , UL5 , LL4 ,
UL4 , LL5 , LL6 ,
LR5 , UL2 , UR2 ,
LR6 , UR4

A dental implant is essentially a substitute for a natural root and commonly it is screw or cylinder shaped. Each implant
is placed into a socket carefully drilled at the precise location of the intended tooth.
All the common forms of tooth replacement, such as bridges or dentures can be replaced by dental implants. If you are
missing just one natural tooth, then one implant is normally all that will be needed to provide a replacement. Larger
spaces created by two, three or more missing teeth do not necessarily need one implant per tooth, however the exact
number of implants will depend upon the quality and volume of bone at each potential implant site.
3 - 4 months.

Notes

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Visit 3
Day 1

Item Location

Crown: Temporary
Crown / Piece

LR1 , LL1 , LL3 ,
LR2 , LL2

If you start your treatment by 31st July 2010, you can receive every fifth implant and crown half price, so you can save
797 GBP.

Price Breakdown
Summary

Treatment Schedule

Day 1: Teeth preparation, implant uncovering, impression taking

Day 3: First fitting of the restoration, colour matching

Day 5: Second fitting

Day 8: Final fitting

Day 9: Adjustments

Item Count Cost/Item Cost

Crown: Fused To Porcelain On
Implant

11 £199 £2189

Crown: Porcelain Crown Fused
To Metal /Bridge /Piece

13 £199 £2587

Crown: Temporary Crown /
Piece

5 £30 £150

Total: £4926

Visit Days Required Cost

1 3 £1128

2 2 £6589

3 9 £4926

Totals: 14 £12643

welshdent

Would be very helpful if you were able to x rays and any pictures if thats at all possible?

brook2jack

Have you read this?https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/300006 and more pertinantely this. http://strongasanoxandnearlyassmart.blogspot.com/2007/09/dental-implants-in-hungary.html