Carpets!

Happydays83

Hi all,

Not sure if you will be able to help but want to ask opinions. My partner and I are moving and want to re carpet the whole property.

Ground floor will have vynal, upstairs (2 floors) plus hall and stairs both carpet. Someone has quoted us £14.99 sq mtr for 80/20 wool twist supreme quality. Now I don't want to skimp on the carpets as they will last longer and I want good quality but is that a bit much ?

I had a quick look on the net but can''t really seem to find any, carpet right have 80 / 20 for a bit more thn £14.99, but I'm not sure what type this is (first time buying things like this!)

Any help on this subject and what is good to buy / miss would be really helpful.

Thanks in anticipation.

phill99

You need to make sure you are comparing eggs with eggs.

As far as I understand it, 80/20 carpet comes in a number of grades and is dependent on the weight. It comes in 30 40 50 or 60 oz grades. The heavier the carpet, the denser the weave and therefore the more expensive the carpet will be.

A decent quality carpet will last for a long time and is essential in heavy traffic areas and therefore it is false economy to buy cheap carpet in these areas.

You can get away with a cheaper grade in bedrooms which are less trafficed.

Tucker

Also, don't pay what they ask.

Go back and ask what they can do it for per sq metre.

Most will have some play and most will be used to getting chipped down on price. You have to be cheeky as a £2 a sq metre discount will make a decent difference.

I never pay what people ask for. If they won't deal, I'll shop around and find someone who will.

Also check what underlay you are getting and the price for that, as it's a common area to sting you. The good quality underlay can be purchased for £3 to £4 per sq metre, so don't be paying £7+ which many will quote you.

Happydays83

Thanks for your help.

I have found cloud 9 underlay 11 mm thick on tradepriced.co.uk and another website for £2.99 + vat and £6.95 delivery. I told a carpet fitter this and he said ''Good luck' !!!!!!
How rude!
It's there in black and white.
So can we buy underlay and get someone to fit it or will people be against fitting underlay that's already been bought? God I feel like I am pulling my hair out!

Definatley go for a good carpet on hall and stairs and perhaps some off cuts in the two spare rooms and a slightly better in my bedroom ?
A friend told me she got off cuts in her spare room for £60.00 and her hubby fitted it?

If I go to somewhere like carpet right where they've currently got 75% sale, buy the carpet then get the I could find someone to fit it at a small cost?

Thanks

Happydays83

Thanks for your help.

I have found cloud 9 underlay 11 mm thick on tradepriced.co.uk and another website for £2.99 + vat and £6.95 delivery. I told a carpet fitter this and he said ''Good luck' !!!!!!
How rude!
It's there in black and white.
So can we buy underlay and get someone to fit it or will people be against fitting underlay that's already been bought? God I feel like I am pulling my hair out!

Definatley go for a good carpet on hall and stairs and perhaps some off cuts in the two spare rooms and a slightly better in my bedroom ?
A friend told me she got off cuts in her spare room for £60.00 and her hubby fitted it?

If I go to somewhere like carpet right where they've currently got 75% sale, buy the carpet then get the underlay from the cheap website, could find someone to fit it at a small cost?

Thanks

shirlgirl2004

Happydays83 wrote: »

Thanks for your help.

I have found cloud 9 underlay 11 mm thick on tradepriced.co.uk and another website for £2.99 + vat and £6.95 delivery. I told a carpet fitter this and he said ''Good luck' !!!!!!
How rude!
It's there in black and white.
So can we buy underlay and get someone to fit it or will people be against fitting underlay that's already been bought? God I feel like I am pulling my hair out!

Definatley go for a good carpet on hall and stairs and perhaps some off cuts in the two spare rooms and a slightly better in my bedroom ?
A friend told me she got off cuts in her spare room for £60.00 and her hubby fitted it?

If I go to somewhere like carpet right where they've currently got 75% sale, buy the carpet then get the I could find someone to fit it at a small cost?

Thanks

I found the same underlay at tradepriced and then went into my local independent carpet store. The bloke agreed (reluctantly) to match the price for the underlay and I paid his price for the carpet which was in the sale. Underlay is however really easy to fit unlike carpet which needs some skill.

Paul_the_Painter

If you want the underlay you have bought off the internet to be fitted, and are buying the fitting and carpet from a retailer, nothing works better than a £20 note. Same thing works for clearing the old carpet - but let the fitter know beforehand!

Fitters working for retail shop don't get any more for fitting underlay and/or gripper than just fitting the carpet - but a shop manager will spread out the "full prep" work amonst the fitters. This means that the work evens out. If they turn up to a job with a job sheet that has carpet and fitting only on it, they will be surprised to be confronted with carpet down and a couple of rolls of underlay lying on the floor! And not in a good way! They have not planned for this, and it will take far longer. The shop may have arranged for the fitter to do a "before 3pm" job in the afternoon, which may now not be possible.

Best bet is to be totally upfront with the fitter/shop. If a customer said to me they had sourced their own underlay and wanted the fitter to fit it and lift the old carpet, I would have seen that as a golden opportunity to give a favour back to a fitter who had done me one in the past. I would phone the fitter, get a price from him, pass that to the customer, then note in the diary something like "uplift cpt, fit customers own underlay, £40 cash to fitter" Everyone then knows the fitters workload for the day, and you don't end up overloading them.

It's amazing how many people think the fitter is only doing their carpet during the whole day - despite the cost to fit being maybe £40 for a single room. A typical 2 man team would fit about 150m2 plus maybe a private job somewhere in the day, a single fitter would fit about 100m2. 2 man teams are often a fitter and trainee/lad, so fit less per man, 2 fitters on a team will get through more - on an easy job a lot more!

Tucker

Personally I wouldn't use carpet right. I can't stand the bulls*** pricing and they overcharge for extras.

I tried a couple of independent shops and found one which was very sensible pricewise and he did the underlay for less than £3.50 per metre and the grippers in a 7m by 5m room for £20. They did a great job.

wallbash

I can't stand the bulls*** pricing and they overcharge for extras.

Forget about how they arrive at the final cost .
Just compare like with like.

Tucker

Yeh, but I also can't stand the sight of their shops, big sale signs, TV ads, smarmy sales staff or the rigmarole of getting to the final cost having first been quoted silly numbers. No thanks!

It's as wrong as microwave dinners full of fat, sugar and salt....

Happydays83

Thanks to all for thier replies, I think I have alot of reaserch to do and a lot of bartering!

As it happens I've just been into Carpet Right, all the big signs as you said Tucker !
She quoted me a lot less than some others, infact £1500 less than another ! But that was priced on £500 fitting for laminate flooring and the carpet was £11.99 per sqr mtr 100 % Polypropylene which I am guessing is not the best ?

Is it a 'no no' to get that ? Would we be better with 80 x 20 wool ?

Thanks