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Ooh look... GB 1 - 0 Cleggertoff...
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The double-dip will come. The Tory obsession with cutting will result in huge job losses in the public sector and a domino effect throughout the entire economy.0
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Double dip or Greece.
Not sure you have made the right choice there.0 -
I'm still waiting for "real" proof that we are not still in recession, before I start worrying about a double dip !!!'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'0
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The double-dip will come. The Tory obsession with cutting will result in huge job losses in the public sector and a domino effect throughout the entire economy.
All these arguments about double dips/ cutting spending and so on must be viewed in the context of the UK living beyond her means at the moment.
It is plain naive to think that we don't need austerity measures in the very near future.0 -
All these arguments about double dips/ cutting spending and so on must be viewed in the context of the UK living beyond her means at the moment.
It is plain naive to think that we don't need austerity measures in the very near future.
Ok, fine.
But first answer me this: why have the cuts version of austerity - i.e. the version which is going to have its biggest effect on average and lower income groups?
Why that, rather than the increased tax version, where you could ensure that the higher income groups and their jolly pals, the bankers, pay their due share?
It's all cuts, cuts, cuts. When the state schools start complaining about their leaking roofs, do you believe for one instant that Dave and his Tory public school chummies are going to give a damn?
When there is a gap between tax receipts and government expenditure, you have a clear choice between cuts to services and raising taxation.
Anyone who thinks that what's coming is something other than a barely concealed Tory agenda must be living in cloud cuckoo land...
... and if I were a libdem supporter I would be scratching my head in pure despair over the betrayal of principle which is ongoing...0 -
Alan_Cross wrote: »Ok, fine.
But first answer me this: why have the cuts version of austerity - i.e. the version which is going to have its biggest effect on average and lower income groups?
Why that, rather than the increased tax version, where you could ensure that the higher income groups and their jolly pals, the bankers, pay their due share?
It's all cuts, cuts, cuts. When the state schools start complaining about their leaking roofs, do you believe for one instant that Dave and his Tory public school chummies are going to give a damn?
When there is a gap between tax receipts and government expenditure, you have a clear choice between cuts to services and raising taxation.
Anyone who thinks that what's coming is something other than a barely concealed Tory agenda must be living in cloud cuckoo land...
... and if I were a libdem supporter I would be scratching my head in pure despair over the betrayal of principle which is ongoing...
We need a bit of both tbh, and I never thought I would ever type/say this but was kind of refreshing to hear Liam Fox talk about cuts in 'defence'."An arrogant and self-righteous Guardian reading tvv@t".
!!!!!! is all that about?0 -
Alan_Cross wrote: »Ok, fine.
But first answer me this: why have the cuts version of austerity - i.e. the version which is going to have its biggest effect on average and lower income groups?
Why that, rather than the increased tax version, where you could ensure that the higher income groups and their jolly pals, the bankers, pay their due share?
It's all cuts, cuts, cuts. When the state schools start complaining about their leaking roofs, do you believe for one instant that Dave and his Tory public school chummies are going to give a damn?
When there is a gap between tax receipts and government expenditure, you have a clear choice between cuts to services and raising taxation.
Anyone who thinks that what's coming is something other than a barely concealed Tory agenda must be living in cloud cuckoo land...
... and if I were a libdem supporter I would be scratching my head in pure despair over the betrayal of principle which is ongoing...
All this rubbish of agendas.
When you are living within your means then this becomes a discussion, however until then its cutting your coat to fit your cloth.
End of!
How else can I put this... only a moron goes on spending what money he doesn't have on a grand lifestyle.0 -
or it could even be put this way... only a simple moron with an agenda would want to stifle any growth in an already delicate economy.All this rubbish of agendas.
When you are living within your means then this becomes a discussion, however until then its cutting your coat to fit your cloth.
End of!
How else can I put this... only a moron goes on spending what money he doesn't have on a grand lifestyle.
cuts are necessary but not cuts that will kill growth.0 -
or it could even be put this way... only a simple moron with an agenda would want to stifle any growth in an already delicate economy.
cuts are necessary but not cuts that will kill growth.
At just what point in this "cycle" would you decide to start cutting the percentage of GDP being paid out in interest payments? Go on give us all a number.
Perhaps you think the government has a magic formula for "investing" this borrowing, which will make such a big profit that more than pays the cost of borrowing, remembering that this profit has to be earned from foreigners if it is to be a true profit for UK Plc.
It is the Balance of Payments deficit that foreign lenders are looking at; more than the deficit created by excessive government spending.
They have already seen their loans devalued by Gordon Brown by about 25% (fools thought they were investing in a petro currency like the Norwegian krona:rotfl:)
Once bitten twice shy.0 -
no idea - but i do know that killing your growth is a guaranteed way to push the economy into recession again.John_Pierpoint wrote: »At just what point in this "cycle" would you decide to start cutting the percentage of GDP being paid out in interest payments? Go on give us all a number.
maybe that is what they want though...0
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